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  1. holston

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    Prince Lutz Alot doesn't believe that people can be intimidated into silence even though that's exactly what he does every time he opens his big mouth.

    Now run an tattle to the monitor about how I am insulting you so you can get me banned like you did in the other thread.

    Don't forget to tell them how you are constantly trying to ridicule everyone who disagrees with you, and how you call them liars, and how you Lutz Alot. Then try to convince everyone that you are not trying to be insulting.

    Anyone who cannot spot the holes in your arguments is probably beyond reach. Those who can don't need to have them pointed out. So I will spare myself the time and trouble it would take to tear you to shreds, which would be easy enough to do if one was into wasting that amount of time.

    However, I will say with reference to the last remark you made, that there is a reason why Jews have often changed their names and concealed their identities. They claim it is to shield themselves from "anti-semitism". Of course they never give a logical explanation for how all this "anti-semitism" arises so often, even though they insist that they can never go anywhere without it arising.

    Another possible explanation as to why they would want to conceal their identity from "Goyim" would be to disguise the coordinated activity that leads them to attaining the highest per capita income as they have in the US. The reason for this they tell us is that they are simply harder working and smarter. At the same they make this claim they tell us they are not Supremacists.

    Jews are notorious for their hostility against organized Christianity. Traditionally this animosity has been aimed at the Catholics primarily. But I can cite you at least one example of where a Jew has been made a Bishop in the Catholic church.

    The Ashkenazim/Khazar people can be found most anywhere including in organized Christianity. Some of them lead a movement within the Methodist organizations to incorporate communist ideology into their teaching of ministers.

    This is called subversion for all those who are unfamiliar with the term. It would include the planting of moles within Arab resistance organizations for examples. Only a fool or a liar would say that Israel has not planted these clandestine workers hither and thither, including US intelligence agencies and branches of government.

    For those of you to whom this terminology seems too much of a stretch, it may help if you think of it simply as spying. Do any of you doubt that spying does occur in various places and for a variety of reasons. Or would you agree with Prince Lutz Alot that only a "conspiracy nut" would ever think so?
     
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    If patriot is 'intimidating' holston into silence,it's not working
     
  3. Sir Thaddeus

    Sir Thaddeus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please keep the discussion on the topic of the thread and not each other.

    No need for deletions/thread bans/ etc...

    Please be nice.
     
  4. holston

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    http://www.yesweekly.com/triad/article-4160-the-strange-death-of-dr-david-m-graham.html


    Wouldn't it be grand if everybody tried to be nice?

    The trouble is that they don't. Mobsters and murderers generally speaking are not very nice.

    It has been said that nice guys finish last.

    Some girls even say that nice guys are a bore.

    It seems that being an a$$ kicker is all the rage these days. People seem more reluctant to respond to anything less.

    Prince Lutz Alot certainly typifies this trend.

    Sometimes people macho themselves to an early grave.


    It's a long article. The upshot is that the Dentist knew some of the hijackers and knew something of their plans and tried to report them to the FBI. For some strange reason the FBI refused to act upon this information and made intimidating remarks toward the Doctor which caused him to fear for his life.

    This is not the only case of leaks made by "whistle blowers" prior to 9/11. De Bunkos say "Where are the witnesses?" and "Where are the whistle blowers?" When you point them out they do what they always do, deny, discredit, and attack the person reporting of them. The fact that several of these witnesses have wound up dead does not phase them. It's just another "coincidence" for which "There is no proof".


    It seems that this cloak and dagger stuff has been happening for a long time. You'd think that De Bunkos would have enough sense to realize this.
     
  5. holston

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    As far as this accusation of "anti-semitism" goes, if there were not strong indications of Zionist involvement in 9/11, I would not make mention of them here, at least not in this context.

    As far as the "Jewish" (Askenazim/Khazar) element within the "Russian" mob goes, I think it should be a matter of grave concern to anyone who does not which to see this country deteriorate to the state of the former USSR.

    These gangsters have the financial resources to disrupt nations. There is every indication that they doing this in the US. One can even hear talk shows now in which the positive aspects of Bolshevist Russia are accentuated! It's part of the revamping of history to put socialism in a favorable light and to vilify the stock of white men who conceived of our Constitutional Republic.

    Considering the top heavy influence of these "Jews" in the Bolshevik revolution and the part their culture has played in advancing Marxism, what does it tell you that we now have their apologists delivering a sanitized version of their bloody history for public consumption?


    The theft of land in Palestine and the mistreatment of the indigenous people there at the hands of the Israeli Jews was denied by our government spokesmen and ignored by the media as having anything to do with motivating the attacks of 9/11. Instead we have W Bush telling us 9/11 was because they "hated our freedom".

    This is the same Bush who installed the "Patriot Act" which paved the way for the National "Defense" Authorization Act and other subsequent legislation which if anything have had the effect of robbing us of our freedom. So who pray tell is it that "hates our freedom" if it isn't the same people who are busy taking it away from us? !!

    If they were truly worried about "dirty bombs" and terrorists they would close the d@mned boarders!
    They wouldn't be providing guns to drug dealing gangs either!


    And rather than clamping down on illegals they spend their time contriving new ways to spy on the natural born citizens and to deny them any privacy at all.

    WHY? Because it is the people of this country who they are afraid of, that's why! The NDAA was designed to protect the elitist establishment which is getting rich skinning the American people through convoluted financial rip offs, induced inflation, and ever higher taxes.

    And as long as the "Chosen Ones" are riding high on the hog they will continue to defend the status quo they believe is responsible for protecting privileged positions, freedom not withstanding. How long do they expect to maintain this standard of living if they succeed in destroying the very class of people who were responsible for creating it in the first place?

    Rather stupid isn't it?


    I hope they live long enough to experience the day when they will be surrounded by nothing but Mexicans, blacks, Arabs, Indians, and others with whom the charge of "anti-semitism" will fall on deaf ears, those among them who aren't really worried about mob rule, so long as they get to be the mob!

    Now go on and pretend that it doesn't matter whether a gang of bandits and murderers are allowed to get away with murder and call the shots from behind the scenes. Congress makes a nice window dressing and appearances are all that seem to matter in a world obsessed with vanity.



    There is no doubt that a lot of Arabs and Muslims would like to kill a lot of Jews. There is no doubt that some of them wanted to fly planes into the WTC buildings in order to strike a blow at "the great Satan".

    But there is also no doubt, at least not in my mind, that there were also some people in this country who wanted them succeed so that they could follow through with their plans for "securing the realm". Disposing of the outdated Trade buildings was a convenient bonus. It had to be done sooner or later. Why not sooner and have the Muslims take the wrap for it? They wanted to didn't they?

    The greasy little fly in all this ointment was all the horrendous and terrifying deaths that unsuspecting people had to undergo. We can not afford to ignore the principle involved here or we are just asking for more of the same, and not just from angry Muslims.


    There are right ways wrong ways to solving conflicts and problems.
    Some people will attempt to justify the wrong way for the sake of expediency. Murder and mayhem is not the right way. A just society will not tolerate it.



    This is my opinion and Prince Lutz Alot is entitled to it.
     
  6. Patriot911

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    Really? You're going to try and pretend that I am intimidating people with incriminating evidence against the government? That is so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retarded, yet right in line with the rest of your claims. So how am I to enforce said intimidation? I don't know you. You don't know me. And how is the government suppose to intimidate thousands to tens of thousands of people? They would need even MORE people in on the conspiracy to go around threatening all those people. And if someone comes out anonymously, what then? The government won't even know who the snitch is.

    Just more evidence your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is just that. A shame you can't see the more you squirm the more you prove the point.

    Hate to burst your ego, but I rarely report people. The closest I've come was reporting you for spamming when you actually thought I and others could break your links. :lol: Your paranoid delusions give others WAY too much power.

    Unlike you, I actually point out your lies. Then you run from them. It is one thing to just accuse someone. It is an entirely different matter to back up your claim with proof. The fact you run from addressing your lies only proves they are lies and you know they are lies.

    Such a convenient excuse for running away from addressing your lies. Think anyone is buying that bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? I don't think so.

    So you have evidence Mark Felt, his father and his grandfather not only changed their names but completely changed their religion and became religious leaders? Or are you once again just talking out your ass to try and cover up your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies? How about some evidence. Got proof his name use to be Mark Feltstein? Got a picture of him wearing a yalmulke and attending a Jewish service? Of course not. It is so much easier to label everyone a Jew so you can hate everyone than it is to deal with reality.

    Your overwhelming jealousy of the Jews goes a long way to explaining your anti-semitism. Again, have any evidence to show Mark Felt was a Jew?

    Meanwhile I can show you numerous REAL examples of hostility and violence against Christians by Muslims. I don't have to make (*)(*)(*)(*) up to prove my points. :lol:

    A sure sign of a person suffering from paranoid delusions is the fact they believe the "enemy" is hiding everywhere and that anyone can be the "enemy".

    And? Think the US doesnt have moles? The Russians? The Germans? The English? :lol:

    And yet another lie from you. Where have I ever said spying does not take place? The fact Israel has spies in the US in no way implicates them any more than it implicates the Russians, the English, or any other country that has spies in the US.
     
  7. Patriot911

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    Wow. Right after a mod directly says keep it on topic and off people, you go and make it all about me and how I am some kind of ass kicking mobster murderer machoing myself to an early grave. :lol: Nice! What is your encore?
     
  8. 9/11 was an inside job

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    Bld 7 and the barry jennings story is the FACTS that the official conspiracy theory apologists always blatantly ignore because they cant get around it.They cant get around his testimony no matter how hard they try of the FACTS he stated that he heard explosions go off in the basement BEFORE the twin towers fell which shreads to pieces the lies of the NIST report that the fires caused bld 7 to collapse.Thats why they obviously murdered him and disguised it as something else two days before the NIST report came out.The OCTA'S here can only whine and cry in defeat knowing they cant get around that fact.:nod::D

    btw Holston did you get my latest pm message.
     
  9. holston

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    Oh no. In no way did I intend to flatter you. What you are is more akin to a fly at a pic nic.

    The Jews were the ones who conspired to bring Nixon down. There's no doubt about that.

    Mark Felt was not a Jew in the true sense of the word, as in being an actual Semite. But neither are the majority of the Ashkenazim faux Jews in the US who belong to the Talmudic Klan that's destroying this country by degrees.

    In the final analysis what matters is not really ones race, but who and what people work for. By this definition Mark Felt was a Talmudic Jew par excellance. That's why they praise him now. They hated Nixon. And what they did to Nixon they do to anyone who they dislike, ie they conspire against them. In most cases their effects are not nearly so severe. But whatever they do, they most always do these things on the sly.

    Some things never change.

    The attitude that the majority of Talmudic Jews have today is not much different than the one you display.
    They know that their motives and the tactics they employ to achieve them will not be appreciated among the non Jews they use them against. That's why they mask their identity. That's where the term "crypto-Jew" comes from.

    But then, who lays a trap for someone and then puts a neon sign over it saying "Step here!" ?

    I don't know why all the Zio-JUDEO-xtians can't grasp this simple concept. I guess that goes to show how effective the TWO FACED Jews are at deceiving others into believing they are all palsey walsey or just another "good ol' boy", when all the while they scheming about how to cheat you out of house and home.

    All anyone needs to confirm this intent needs to do is just pay attention to advertisements. The trouble is that the stupid goy can't tell what goes for a "Jew" in this country from a horse patoot. This ignorance of theirs might make a reasonable person ask themselves just how so much "anti-semitism" is possible under such circumstances. I mean, exactly how are you supposed to discriminate against some one if you can't tell who they are in the first place?
     
  10. Patriot911

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    :lol: Leave it up to you to flip flop on what you claim. First I'm an ass kicking mobster murderer machoing myself to an early grave, and now, for an encore, I'm a fly at a pic nic. Still can't follow the mod's advice, though.

    That is the difference between us. I believe Nixon brought himself down by breaking the law and then trying to cover it up. You believe the Jews are behind everything no matter what the evidence says.

    And your evidence to back up this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) statement is what again? Paranoid delusions and irrational hatred are not evidence. Not now. Not ever.

    So, your only evidence that Mark Felt was a Jew of ANY kind was the fact he helped to expose the truth about Watergate? Wow! The way the anti-semitic mind works is really a site to behold! More twists and turns as a plateful of spaghetti, but smells like rancid dog (*)(*)(*)(*).

    So because the Pharasees did God's bidding, all conspiracies are Jewish? BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Just when I think your claims can't get any more retarded, you go and show me there is no bottom to the anti-semitic well of nonsense.

    First off, anyone using the term "crypto Jew" should immediately shave their head and enroll at stormfront because they are far too deep into irrational hatred to ever see the light of day.

    Second, why do you attribute many human characteristics as something that is only practiced by Jews? Can't you see how utterly (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retarded that is? One cannot conspire unless one is a Jew? One cannot seek to hide their identity unless they are a Jew? :lol:

    One has to have a pickled brain, no common sense, and no heart before they can grasp your "simple concepts" because one has to totally dive feet first into irrational anti-semitic hate before your claims even make sense.

    I rest my case. :lol:
     
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    To clarify, Barry Jennings entered WTC 7, felt it have multiple explosions, was trapped inside by damage from the explosions, got rescued, was led through a blown out lobby over questionable objects he took for dead bodies and all this happened before either tower fell. Is this correct?
     
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    http://911debunkers.blogspot.ca/2009/04/new-info-on-barry-jennings.html


    http://deadlinelive.info/2009/04/16/new-information-on-the-death-of-911-eyewitness-barry-jennings-seems-to-point-to-foul-play/

    http://jenningsmystery.com/

    There is a filmed interview of Barry Jennings giving an account of his experiences.

    The reader should listen to it in it's entirety.

    According to Prince Lutz Alot, Mr Jennings did not say these things. He calls me "retarded" for reporting what Mr Jennings did say, and not only me, but everyone else who has reported it as well.

    Let the reader decide for himself whether Mr Jennings gave an honest report, or whether Prince Lutz Alot is the world's foremost authority on retardation.
     
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    Richard Nixon was a mortal man for sure. As such he had his faults to be sure. But of all the Presidents I am aware of he would be the most Christ like. Why? Because he bore the reproaches of the spiritual ancestors of the Pharisees whom you claim were "doing God's work".

    Richard Nixon was guilty of trying to cover the rear ends of the nincompoops who broke into the place of Democrats campaign committee. That was his great sin!

    And compare that to the Constitutional violations of Bill Clinton, W. Bush, or even Obama.

    If Nixon overreacted it was certainly no surprise to those who were laying in wait on him. Because they all belonged to the same Cabal that was dogging him in the first place, and he knew it! And they knew he knew it.

    It is just as Billy Graham said, if they didn't find some way to wrest control of the media away from the hands of the Jews who ran it, then this country was going down the drain. That's exactly the way it appears to be going right now, and for that same reason.

    If Nixon was the big "anti-semite" you people say he was, it is only because you define anyone who seeks to preserve the future of white gentiles in the hands of white gentiles as a "racist" or a "bigot". Through a relentless campaign of propagandizing, indoctrination, and the lure of "sex, drugs, and Rock 'n Roll", and the siren call of Marxism, you've succeeded in causing them to give it up voluntarily. It reminds me of Honest John the Fox and Pinnocheo.


    At one time, people believed in the principles on which this country was founded whether the people lived up to them perfectly or not. What we have now is a situation in which elitists banksters, led mostly by the Askenazim faction of Talmudic Jews, are on the verge of selling the entire country to the highest bidder. Does this bother the Jewish community? Not at all. They're cheering it on. "So much win".


    That remark is very telling. You don't even have to read between the lines. You've spelled it out for them. If they are retarded enough to accept your proposition, then they may as well be one of you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-Judaism



    I never attributed these characteristics to Jews only and you know it. So far as I know, Talmudic Judaism is the only religion outside of some form of Satanic cult which canonizes practices which are almost universally recognized as either immoral or unethical; lying and cheating among them.

    We have Jews in high places who have introduced torture as a legitimate means of interrogating prisoners as example of the Judaization of America. Such was already standard practice in Israel. Of course others have been guilty of this. But until recently it was not legally sanctioned. Nor was the targeting of people with US citizenship for assassination.

    (Why do you think the Kennedy assassination was covered up if not for fear of a public fire storm? If one accepts the proposition that the use of controlled demolitions/incendiaries in the WTC buildings as being possible, which it was, then one must immediately admit that covering up the act would be a high priority for them. )

    Of course people outside of Judaism may do all these things. But in Christian cultures these practices are called sin. Atheists and Secular Humanists, communists would be included in this crowd, do not admit of such a thing. Many "Jews" insist that being "Jewish" pertains only to one ascribing to a religious belief. This fails to explain how their affiliation with so many Secular Humanists and atheist "Jews".

    Any culture which is inundated by Christian teachings tends to create social pressures and consequences which discourage unlawful, unethical, and immoral acts whether people incorporate these ideas into their hearts or not. The stigma associated with violating these principles has benefits to society in general, hypocrisy notwithstanding.

    Indeed, one of the first things a Christian must acknowledge is the fact that he is imperfect and to some degree is guilty of sin. Or why else would he be in need of salvation? Jews express no need to be saved from anything except poverty.

    Judaism is a Supremacist religion which teaches its followers that they are in some way above all others with respect to sin, if they admit to it at all, by virtue of some birth rite. How they can claim to be "Sons of Abraham" by a physical lineage and still deny a racial element to their title befuddles those who are unaccustomed to dealing with people who practice double talk.

    Speaking of "proof", modern Ashkenazim "Jews" have no more ancestral evidence which links them to Abraham than I do. Therefore there is much less evidence for their claims to Palestine than there is for controlled demolitions in 9/11.



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    There are times when I think of what I've said on this forum and elsewhere, and I feel some remorse for having said them. It isn't that I have much doubt about them, it's because I consider the whole condition of man tragic. I'd rather not think so.

    When I view humanity on the street in it's stark reality, I may feel as much pity as I do anger because what I see in actuality is in stark contrast to what is depicted in the media. I see pathetic mortals chasing hopes that are forever out of their reach. Practically all of them have a collection of memories including painful experiences, rude awakenings, disappointments, and broken dreams.

    When you consider that we all come into this world not having any say so about the time or condition of our birth, and lacking control over the forces which immediately begin to mold our characters, it is hard to totally dismiss that original innocence we once possessed as mere sentimental mush.

    But it isn't long before the seedier side of our existence dulls the capacity to empathize with others, especially when we are confronted by those who have long lost any compassion for the "other guy".
    Even the ordinary aggravations of everyday life can destroy an impulse of good will. Even the muscular @$$ kickers can be very weak this way, downright feeble.

    With certain individuals I may not see any embers of light at all. The world seems to have snuffed them out altogether.

    Does it matter to me whether these walking dead belong to a particular race or not? No. As far as their potential for cruelty and total disregard for the pain of others, absolutely not.

    Conversely, when I encounter a person who seems to possess a kindred spirit, it is impossible for me to harbor fear, resentment, or ill will. There seems to exist within them something which restores my faith in the ability of the human spirit to survive this world, despite it's injustices, and lusts to envy.

    I'm convinced that the only way one can rise above it is to be thoroughly assured in the existence and power of a spirit which is greater than anything the world offers us to covet and is able to deliver us from the worst possible nightmare imaginable. Without that, life is absurd and death is the only hope of rest from it.



    Promises, promises.
     
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    So you worship Nixon and are all butthurt that he turned out to be dirty. Cry us a river. As for the Pharasees, they were doing God's work if you believe in Christ. If not for the Pharasees, Christ wouldn't have died on the cross.

    Those "nincompoops" were working for his administration. Nixon was NOT just guilty of covering up the illegal activities he authorized.

    If they broke the law, why weren't they impeached? Oh right. It is your moronic OPINION that they had "constitutional violations". Your opinion doesn't mean dick.

    More unproven bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from you.

    More silly nonsense from you.

    Another BLATANT lie by you. Where have I ever said Nixon was an anti-semite? Honestly. Can you make it through an entire post without blatantly lying your ass off?

    More anti-semitic nonsense from you. Let's say you're right and the bankers are going to sell America. That would also sell the Jewish communities and destroy their way of life. Do you even think this (*)(*)(*)(*) through before you start spewing your hate filled bile?

    So you don't believe the New Testiment? Without the Pharasees, Christ would not have been crucified and there would be no Christianity. See, I am not so wrapped up in anti-semitic hate that all I can see is conspiracies and believe everyone who doesn't think like me must be a Jew. Was it God's plan for Christ to die on the cross? Absolutely. Did the Pharasees assist in that plan? Without a doubt. So how did the Pharasees NOT do God's work? This is very simple stuff. Of course, if I were a Jew, I wouldn't believe in Christ or his divinity in the first place, in which case I wouldn't be able to claim the Pharasees were doing the work of God. Maybe you should think things through before making such a complete and utter fool of yourself.
    Oh, you mean the practices attributed to them by lying anti-semites? :lol: Yeah, it is called demonization and has been used for centuries to try and rationalize the massive hate crimes involving genocide. Congratulations! You've proven once again your claims are based on anti-semitic paranoid delusio

    Another prime example of anti-semitic paranoid delusions and demonization. Again you try to pretend that Jews are the only people who torture. Give it up.

    Ah, the completely retarded tactic of using one unproven conspiracy theory to try and prove another unproven conspiracy theory. That tactic only makes sense if one lacks a brain.

    More anti-semitic bull(*)(*)(*)(*) where you try to pretend that torture is a sin to everyone but Jews, thus demonizing them further.
     
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    So does Judaeism and every other religion despite your blatant attempts to lie about it. That isn't a Christian only phenomenon.

    Maybe you should actually take some time out from browsing stormfront and learn about Judaeism. If Jews express no need to be saved, why do they have rituals for forgiveness like Yom Kippur? One cannot have a day of attonement when, as you ignorantly claim, they don't think they have sinned?

    Well, you are an expert at white supremacy, but your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about others is just that.

    And here we see your claims have clearly gone into la la land! :lol:

    Your own guilt over what you know is wrong is between you and God. The fact you continue to spread hate is not very Christian and will have to be addressed on judgement day.

    That is the human condition. It isn't practically all of them. It is every single last one of them. There isn't a single person who hasn't had a painful experience, a rude awakening, a disappointment or a broken dream in their life. YOU are one of those pathetic mortals you so condescendingly mock.

    Still trying to justify your irrational, illogical and unjust hatred of others?

    That might be the way of people at stormfront, but that isn't the way of any Christians I know unless they've given up their faith.

    I was wondering when you were going to attribute those negative attributes to Jews.

    So it makes you feel better when you meet a fellow white supremicist who hates Jews and anyone who threatens your white manhood? Makes sense.

    So why don't you follow the tenents taught to us by Christ? I am pretty sure Christ did not condone hating Jews (especially since he was a Jew, raised by Jews and, as the Son of God, loves everyone), lying about their characteristics, lying about others belonging to that group of people, or promoting the hatred of anyone. If you believe in a spirit greater than anything the world has to offer, wouldn't you want to be on that spirit's good side?

    Promises made. Promises kept.
     
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    OK, so now you admit that it wasn't explosives that blew out the lobby, but the collapse of the towers. Good to know.

    So how did Jennings know it wasn't a tower collapse that happened? He was in a stairwell when it happened and reportedly on the north side of the building which would not have a view of the towers even if the stairwell had windows. It is stuff like this that makes truthers seem like complete buffoons when they try to pretend that Jennings had absolute knowledge of everything going on around him. :lol:

    One thing that always strikes me as different about truthers is the fact they will take one man's word as pure Gospel no matter what even when that man's testimony is directly refuted by the facts or by other witnesses.

    I also find it incredibly dishonest that truthers pretend anyone's death MUST be part of the conspiracy. It doesn't matter that Jennings died almost seven years after 9/11. It doesn't matter that people die every day from various causes. All that matters is the tin foil and the conspiracy. Sad.
     
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    You people "atone" for the "sins" that you do towards each other, not towards non-Jews. The Talmud authorizes practically any kind of offense against gentiles as long as the Jew committing it is able to get away with it so as to not bring reproach on the Jewish community. Jews have a communal taboo against "ratting each other out" even when one of them IS guilty of breaking a law.

    This is a thread about 9/11 so if I post a ton of evidence to support this assertion then you will run to the moderator and accuse me of not staying on topic.

    Similarly you call me a liar with every other breath, then you whine to the moderator when I call you a liar.

    You are a liar by the way, but that is not my problem. Anyone should be able to figure that out if they follow this tread long enough.


    You need to worry about your own hate, not mine.

    I could ask you the same question. Why don't YOU follow the tenets of Christ? Everyone could profit from doing so.

    I am not spreading lies about Judaism. Judaism is based on the rejection of Christ, not His acceptance. I just want the Zio-JUDEO-xtian enablers of Talmudic Jews to see that.

    Otherwise I don't expect you and your ilk to ever repent of anything.

    I am not a member of Storm Front by the way. I don't post there.

    You shouldn't allow your low opinion of "Christians" to deter you from searching the truth about Christ for yourself.

    Christ indicated that the person who does "hate" his Father or Mother is not worthy of them.
    What this means is that a person should put Christ BEFORE everyone else, including the closest loved ones. Otherwise one would be forced to admit a contradiction. There is no contradiction.
    Christ is called the Prince of Peace yet at one time He said :

    Numerous verses refer to this "contradiction".

    Christ DOES love the Jews I'm sure, just as God loves all men and is "not willing that any should perish but that ALL should come to repentance."

    The problem is that ALL men do not love Him.

    How fair is it that God should love all men unconditionally and offer salvation to them ALL and not expect anything in return, not even so much as a confession of belief, a simple act of obedience, a willingness to strive to do right, and a denunciation of sin?

    Would you rather He admit everyone into His kingdom regardless of what ever they do or the condition of their heart?

    How righteous would that be?


    The Old Testament portends this dilemma men will be faced with.


    I have listened to online sermons given by Rabbis to their synagogues on the subject of the "alleged" claims of Old Testament prophecies contained in the New Testament. This one Rabbi attempts to explain them away by alleging that the authors of the New Testament "painted the target around where the arrow landed" and described it as a "sleazy" process.

    For anyone to accept the Jewish definition of what a Christian is supposed to be, then in order to be a Christian, one must give full financial and political support to the Jewish community and to Israel in particular regardless of what they do or what it entails, and also to "turn the other cheek" every time a Jew is overwhelmed by the urge to slap a Christian in the face.

    The Sanhedrin slapped a blind folded Christ and challenged Him to "Prophecy unto us who smote Thee."

    There's no doubt in my mind that someone like you would do the same thing to me. However I am not Jesus and my mission on earth is not to provide atonement for your sins. So I am under no more obligation to take crap off of you than you are of me. So why act so shocked when I give you a dose of your own medicine?

    You people don't complain about the misconduct of Christians when you send them off to fight for the establishment of your Zionist capitol in Jerusalem and "securing the realm". You don't have any reservations about asking them to kill other people in your behalf do you?

    So don't give me this "You're not a Christian" garbage when I refuse to stand still while you spit in my eye.
     
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    http://listverse.com/2011/08/18/top-10-witnesses-who-died-suddenly/



     
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    During the attacks of 9/11 people were preoccupied with the disaster itself, not any kind of conspiracy theory.

    Nevertheless some people who saw the planes crash into the towers said right away that they were not ordinary passenger planes.

    Many people were reporting numbers of explosions not associated with the crashes and seeing flashes of light.

    Many people including numerous reporters remarked at how similar the destruction of the towers appeared to those of controlled demolitions.

    No one had had time to formulate or even consider any conspiracy of any kind.

    None of the people making these reports knew or collaborated with one another about what they said.

    This would include the suspicions and theories reported by FBI operatives about bombs being planted in the basement and elsewhere.

    So right away we have many reasons to suspect controlled demolitions without recourse to profit motivated "conspiracy nuts". People who are stirring up sensations in order to sell books are not nuts by the way, they know perfectly well what they are doing.

    However, in the case of "9/11 conspiracy nuts" there are many reasons why a person should NOT attempt to "profit" by sensationalizing 9/11 including having ones career wrecked, being stigmatized by the media, or as in the case of Johanneman, Jennings, and Debra Palfrey meeting an untimely demise!

    One may suppose that the delayed death of Jennings could be attributed to the delayed reaction of the 9/11 Truth movement which has been resisted and maligned by the media and the Bush administration from the very start.

    Even after all these years we still see stiff resistance against the pursuit of 9/11 truth being encountered. Perhaps this is because members of the Jewish community fear the implications and ramifications if the truth were ever fully revealed. Or perhaps it is because the statute of limitations on murder never runs out.

    Maybe it's because the project of "securing the realm" is not complete or that the "New World Order" has not been fully established and consolidated. It could also be due to the desire on the part of some to maintain public compliance to the current agenda of the Socialization of the US or the dissolution of it's boarders.

    The vehemence that one sees on the part of De Bunkos to stifle any attempt to uncover the sordid truth is a testament to the fact that the issue is far from dead or even resolved as they would have us believe. Otherwise they would be content to leave the matter alone and allow all the "conspiracy nuts" to rave on unmolested. After all, they are supposed to be comprised of only a small minority of people. Right? So what harm could come from a small minority whom the majority are all convinced are insane or "retarded"?


    No dictatorship has absolute complete power over everything. As long as people are able to direct their own thoughts the potential for rebellion exists. So the cat is never fully in the bag. Riding herd over this many people is a full time job for the Hasbarats in the NSA and elsewhere. Why else would the NSA be spending another 2 billion dollars to buy storage space to keep files on every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the US whether he has an opinion about 9/11, the Jews or anything else?
     
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    The wheels of justice grind slowly.
     
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    "You people"? How many times do I need to tell you I am a Christian? Them paranoid delusions and anti-semitic hatred that makes you claim everyone you don't like is a Jew is really getting out of hand.

    More unsubstantiated anti-semitic bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Really? How do you know that? Well, wait. You've been wrong about everything else, so I guess it is understandable you would be wrong on this as well. You are very consistant!

    Wrong yet again. I call you a liar and then point out the lie. You then run from the lie. You call me a liar yet can't quite point out the lie or defend it. Then you lie about me and the moderators, which, once again, makes you a liar. Any mod reading this can verify this is true.

    So why can't you point out a lie? I can point out very specific lies you've made and that you've failed in any way to prove you weren't lying. Here is a good one. You claimed the hijackers are still alive. I pointed out this was false and presented evidence. You claimed the 20th - 30th floors were empty for reconstruction and restricted. I proved that was a lie by presenting a list of the tenants of those floors. You claimed I was somehow breaking your links as though I have some mystical power over the internet. I don't even need to go into why that was a lie. You claimed that the towers looked just like controlled demolitions which is a blatant lie. They stayed nowhere near their footprint and the vast majority of controlled demolitions go from the bottom up, not the top down. Need I go on? You've run from each and every one of these and many other lies.

    I have no hate. I do know that if one does not stand up against irrational and bigotted hatred, bad things happen. So when some ignorant putz tries to push a bunch of sterotyping lies, I point out the basis of that putz's actions. Simple as that.

    And which tenet have I broken? I am exposing your lies. I am not promoting hate. I am not lying. You could try to say the same, but all one has to do is read what you write to see the lie.

    How can a religion that predates Christ be based on the rejection of Christ? You say you aren't spreading lies and then you tell such a massive lie that anyone who know even the smallest bit about Judaism and Christianity will see the lie.

    I've repented of a lot of things in my life. Debating you isn't one of them as there is no sin.

    Never said you did. You would fit right in though.

    I don't have a low opinion about Christians as I have been one my entire life.

    Wrong yet again. You seem to be confused about Matthew 10:37 "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me".

    So, you completely (*)(*)(*)(*) up the quote and then try to explain it? :lol:

    So shouldn't you strive to be more like Christ? Or are you going to mangle his words as well in order to justify your unjust hatred and your demonization?

    Loving someone unconditionally means you don't have conditions. You don't expect anything back.

    All a person has to do is accept the gift of Christ's dying to take away their sins.

    Who are you to say what is righteous and what is not?

    By your very actions you are not a Christian. Does anyone doubt the Westboro Baptists who claim they are Christians are anything BUT Christians? No. Why? Their actions. Same with you.
     
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    What did it matter if Barry Jennings died 2 days before the NIST report was released? Are you saying the "evil geniuses" that were behind 9/11 decided to wait, what? 6 years after 9/11 to kill Barry Jennings, by somehow giving him leukemia, to keep him from being alive when a report was released, that contained nothing more than information about what time he was rescued? It was documented, he gave an interview right after getting out. He's covered in dust (guess from what? yep, Tower 1 collapsing). Barry Jennings was out of the building 5 hours before it collapsed. Do you know anything about demolitions? What bombs could possibly go off 5 hours before a building collapses that would have anything to do with the building collapsing? This isn't even debunking, this is just common sense stuff.

    I don't care what religion you are, because it doesn't matter. These are logical flaws in your assertions that you cannot explain. All the coincidences that truthers point out require more coincidences for their versions to happen. Ludicrous.
     
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    You are a Zionist-JUDEO-xtian. There's a BIG difference.



    Well if you promise not to tattle I'll provide you some evidence, right here on the 9/11 thread.


    I received notification of it.


    You say that I am a liar. I say that YOU are the liar. Why keep repeating the same thing over and over unless you are trying to create distractions and hope that visiting readers will just take your word for it.

    I've told you before that it is not enough to call someone a liar if you are not specific about what the lie is.
    You need to include a quote of the alleged lie and then explain how it is a lie.
    Not everyone is going to have blind faith in your name calling.


    [​IMG] :lol:


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    Whatever you say honey.


    “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”



    Not at all confused. The verse you cite merely confirms the interpretation I gave..........no contradiction.

    Luke 14:26
    "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple."

    I just did. :lol:

    Do you mean the way you love all the nasty boys at Storm Front or do you mean the way the Israelis love the Arabs and Muslims or do you mean the way that Jews love the founding Fathers, or do you mean the way that blacks love Honkies, Jews luv Shicksa Hoes, Baptists love "Water Dogs", Democrats love Republicans, Mexicans love Gringos, or Jews love gentiles?



    No one. Neither are you. I ask you a question. You avoided giving an answer.


    What actions? I am debating you. You said that was no sin.

    I don't know what the Westboro Baptists have to do with 9/11 but since you mentioned it.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/tmotsm/A1.html
     
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    From your link:

    Following the events of September 11, 2001, Kenneth Johannemann and William Rodriguez provided a detailed account of their experience. One aspect of their stories is similar, but contradicts the official report presented by the 9/11 commission. Both men reported that they heard loud explosions in the basement of the North Tower immediately before and after the plane impacted. Kenneth Johannemann was adamant about the fact that he heard explosions not associated with the crash. William Rodriguez also claimed to have heard a massive rumble in the basement of the North Tower, seconds before the plane hit.

    Now, explain to us how someone in the BASEMENT knows the EXACT SECOND the plane hits.

    Also, I've pointed out the incredible dishonesty of William Rodriguez which you had zero response to. Why do you continue to post proven liars and exaggeraters as evidence your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is true? They don't lend your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) credibility. They destroy it.
     
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