A Patriot Speaks .. and hopes other Patriots will answer .

My dear friends and detractors on this forum , , , hear me , and hear me with understanding . .

There's little hope that our country will rebound this Winter .. lot's of cold yet to come , and many are going to suffer cold & hunger & worse this Winter , and it's the kids that will suffer the worst...

As an American , ( and loose the politics , ok ) what are your hopes for our Country ?

What's it gonna take to make the USA great again ?

And , what do you hope for your kids & grand-kids & great grand-kids that will carry the future onward , long after you and I are gone ?

What is your hope for them ?

and don't be a smartarse , OK ?

 

America will never be great again.

 

Its always great to get a foreigner's take on the greatness of America. You said America will never be great again leaving us to believe you thought America was great at one time. Just for the shiiits and giggles of it all....could you expound on that era when America was once great?

 

America did have point many years ago before corporation took over.
Happily america is going down and imperialism will come to an end.

 

...not unless we can get the progressives, lobbyists, corruption, and political croniyism out of the political process. We also need to abolish the Federal Reserve or at least cut the ties it has to our government. That private banking cartel should succeed or fail on its own, without putting the American taxpayers on the hook for questionable, multibillion dollar loans with no oversisght. Those banks reap the profits, while the taxpayers absorb the losses; a nice gig if you can get it, but this is very wrong and never should have been made a part of our politicoeconomic system.

 

Corporations are just an extended arm of the capital industrialists of the late 19th and early 20th century America.

Please point to this imperialism you see, for I just dont see it.

 

I know you are a fascist and that fascists are stupid but still.
Cant you see american interference in other countries? you must be blind.

 

How can Americans be patriots? Surely you all gave up your proper countries to go there, or fought against your King to avoid paying your proper taxes?

 

Imperialism, as defined by The Dictionary of Human Geography, is "the creation and/or maintenance of an unequal economic, cultural, and territorial relationships, usually between states and often in the form of an empire, based on domination and subordination."

The imperialism of the last 500 years, as described by the above work, is primarily a western undertaking that employs "expansionist – mercantilism and latterly communist – systems.

We do interfere.. generally based on either bad information or some lousy leadership that fancies itself to be bulletproof in judgment.. But we are not Imperialists.

 

Imperialism is the act of a nation extending their power and or dominion over other territories or nations. Now please, take your time and tell us exactly where we have done that. Keep in mind what we did in Iraq was to oust a dictator so that no more than the 300,000 people slain by Saddam would no longer be in jeopardy of losing their lives to a genocidal madman. Once Saddam was ousted, the people there got to vote for a democratic government without being pressured to vote for a genocidal-dictaor-in-chief at the point of a gun.

 

Well lets see

cuba
nicaragua
chile
argentina
vietnam
italy
portugal
greece
spain
iran
bolivia
angola

just to name some


but cause it is america lets consider it liberation.

 

That's news to me, since when did America extend their power and dominion over any of those nations? Did we set up our form of government in any of those nations? Do any of those nations fly the American flag in honor of their new imperialist leader?

 

You tried.
In some you suceeded in others it backfired.

 

Which countries did we succeed in imperializing to the American way?

 

You imperialize you dont have to imperialize to the american way you just want profit for american corporations.

 

Dont be a simpleton.. The U.S Government holds great sway over Columbia Honduras Mexico, Panama.. they used to hold great sway over Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Venezuela, Uruguay.. but hey got smart and kicked out the puppet governments the U.S set up there.

The U.S doesnt pratice Imperialism in the old fashioned way England and Spain used too.

The U.S pratices hegemony. Instead of taking a territory and claiming it officially.. they instead topple the government.. install a puppet government that will do its bidding and get that government dependent on handouts. It was done in Egypt and Iraq and Israel the Philippines, Indonesia etc.. ( of course Israel turned out to be the tail that wagged the dog LOL).

To say that the U.S doesnt involve itaself in influencing and exploiting weaker nations through intimidation and force is hugely disingenuous. You can call it what ever you want.. just because it isnt imperialism by strict definition doesnt mean it is much different. In the end the difference between hegemony and imperilaism is akin to the difference between date-rape with rohypnol or date-rape without rohypnol

 

For our country to be great again, the working and middle class people need to rebuke the false choice liberal vs. conservative polarizing paraidm and the two party corporate oligarchy and take our government back. We need to rid ourselves of the influence of money on the outcome of the electoral and legislative processes and the big government for big business agenda that it allows to strangle our domestic economy and our financial system.

 

If there is any imperialism or hegemony as defined by you and not by me of America with these nations, it comes with the benefit to any or all of the nations in question. Let me explain.

Most if not all of the nations supposedly taken over by America's imperialism/hegemony as defined by you and you alone comes as a result of those nations being under control of a madman, or of a dictator, or of an oppressive socialistic/marxist/communist/statist/collectivist regime.

Point of fact: Iraq was led by a madman/dictator in Saddam who slaughtered upwards to 300,000 of his own people. Ask the people there who were sporting purple fingers symbolizing their freedom from Saddam and from their freedom to vote in a democratic manner after the hanging of Saddam whether they believed America came as a imperialist bully so as to take control of their nation, and I think you'll get a collective 'NO' for an answer.

Liberals constantly call America an imperialist nation who looks to grab all the oil from these Mideast nations for our own benefit. But how much oil did we forcably take from Iraq and other nations over there? Well, the answer is zero as you well know.

Then you liberals go on to blame American corporations like Haliburton for exploiting those Mideast nation oil fields. First of all, it makes no sense to me for any American to be so friggin concerned that an American company/corporation is doing so well overseas. Secondly, the more corporations like Haliburton that can develop some of these underdeveloped nations--the better off these nations will be going forward as work and production will exponentionally increase for the home team. Many of these nations were operating in stagnation mode under a ruthless dictator, check out life in Cuba under Castro for confirmation on that.

So you and other libs such as obama got to stop bashing America, stop bashing American exceptionalism and stop bashing America's worldwide generosity and forward looking freedom loving spirit. The words imperialism and hegemony do not apply when speaking of our beloved America. Now get down and give me fifty Mr. protester.

 

You don't know what the hell you're talking about...research the term "banana republic"...research the actions of the US government/military apparatus in conjunction with multinational corporate interests in Guatamala, Panama, Iran, Cuba, Indonesia, etc., etc., etc.,

The US taxpayer finances the military incursions which are used to depose often times elected foreign leaders so that global corporate interests can gain access to foreign economic markets. It's a blue print that has been followed time and time again...

 

My hope is we will return to the rule of law under the Constitution.
My hope is that our rights as defined by the Bill of Rights will be restored.

My hope is that government will restrain international interests from hampering our free market.

My hope is that small business will again be allowed to flourish.

That is all we need to be a free and great nation once again.

 

Do yourself a favor by reading the Wiki link left for you here.

Especially pertinent for your enjoyment would be for you to scroll down to the heading 'Benevolent Imperialism, and once you're done reading that interesting piece--scroll down to the heading "American Imperialism as an aberration".

Under the second heading you'll find the historian Victor Davis Hanson arguing (as I do) that the U.S. does not pursue world domination, but maintains worldwide influence by a system of mutually beneficial exchanges.

Liberal internationalists argue that even though the present world is dominated by the United States, the form taken by that dominance is not imperial. Read that again, those are 'liberal' internationalists saying that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

 

When conservatives regain control of power in DC, America will begin to climb outta this hole created by liberal Democrats having a majority in both houses since 2006.

As Harry Reid said on January 4, 2007 (the day Nancy Pelosi was sworn in as Speaker)...

We all know how that's worked, don't we? They've driven us to the brink of bankruptcy. Nov '12 will mark the end of their destructive reign. That's what it will take to get America back on our feet.

 

I'm certain I am more well read on the subject than you are, but thanks for the advice.

The US government is a tool of globalist elite. They use the US military to expand their means of domination the world over. There is nothing mutually beneficial about it, neither to Americans nor to the indigenous people they
subjugate.

You need to free yourself from the false liberal vs. conservative paradigm that is used as a means to distract and divide us against our own self interests.

 

Oh No, the board has been hijacked by phony Libertarians who think the Constitution only applies to white people!