A possible Trump bond rejection? NY AG questions if insurance group is good for the money

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    LINK: A possible Trump bond rejection? NY AG questions if insurance group is good for the money (msn.com)

    Why am I not surprised. The guy providing the bond is richer than Trump and runs a bond company (got rich off of it) based in California which arguably has stricter laws than NY....and....

    Know what? Never mind. We all know that this isn't about Justice. Even if leftists will deny that. Don't even know why I bother to continue posting.
     
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    Then it should be a formality to provide certified financials. And if this guy practices business like the Orange Stain, I wouldn’t be so sure he’s richer. In addition, NYS limits bonding companies to issuing bonds no greater than a percentage of their liquid assets, and it’s completely proper to make an out of state company prove it can cover the bond.

    Wouldn’t it be sweet if the bond was no good ? More fraud charges ! Buildings being seized !
     
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    So trump having to abide the same rules and laws as everyone else isn’t justice?

    Fascinating

    I have picked up a trend with magas.
    It’s basically trump should be exempt from everything
     
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    Why should MAGA supporters care?
    They wish to end democracy.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only for “one day”

    With such patriots who needs enemies
     
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    The democrats continue their mission to stop trump no matter what it takes.
     
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    More than 1 day.
    They will try to over turn election again if they lose.

    They don't want fair elections. They have proven that for 4 years now
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Honestly they have been doing that in earnest since 2010ish. They just ramped it up and became more proud of it lately.

    This upcoming election is going to be interesting one.
     
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    That is exactly what a lot of us have ben saying. In the MAGA mind .Trump is exceptional ...to rules, laws ethics etc. They turn themselves into a pretzel defending his bad actions. That is the kind of HOLD he has on them.
    But it would be interesting if the bond is not valid. More volcanic eruptions from Trump with plenty of targets at the receiving end.
    The bloke is very unstable.

    Poetic justice would be that he lose everything. (or close to )......as without money , he is nothing.
     
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    They would like to install Trump in office "for life". They have demonstrated that they have no respect for the democratic style elections. In many of their minds their man did not lose the election. That is pathos to a severe degree.
     
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    Here you go with your group insults and your broad brush again acting as though you have the moral high ground.

    Tens and tens of millions of trump supporters but yet you were qualified to sit here and tell us what they all think
     
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    No, the Law is meant to be abided by no matter who you are.
     
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    Kinda reminds me about posters here who speak pejoratively of all those on the 'left' etc.
     
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    There should have never been a fine levied. He borrowed money from a bank he paid it back.

    What this is going to do is make people not borrow money from Banks because you don't know if you're going to get hammered for fraud.
     
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    He doesn’t run a bonding company. You have no idea what the insurance laws are in either state.
     
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    Maybe it is a "loan".... that seems to work for other folks...

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    Isn't registered to do business in NY. Hummm; this is about tRaitor tRumps shady business dealings not following NY rules. So he posts a bond, and expects it to be accepted ... by a company not authorized to do business in NY. :roll:
    IF not following the rules when you've in the predicament you're in because you didn't follow the rules is somehow a breach of justice in your mind? Then you have a strange sense of justice. :shock:
     
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    Yes, Democrats made Trump do these things for which he can be held responsible despite having access to numerous professionals who could have advised him against it. And Democrats are the bad guys for actually holding him responsible, because everyone knows rich ex-presidents with a rabidly devoted fanbase should be exempt from the law. What a lovely world you'd like to create just to protect Donald Trump. Be careful what you wish for.
     
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    @Noone, post: 1074741359, member: 103093"]Isn't registered to do business in NY. Hummm; this is about tRaitor tRumps shady business dealings not following NY rules. So he posts a bond, and expects it to be accepted ... by a company not authorized to do business in NY. :roll:

    IF not following the rules when you've in the predicament you're in because you didn't follow the rules is somehow a breach of justice in your mind? Then you have a strange sense of justice. :shock:[/QUOTE]

    "IF not following the rules"

    How funny that Engoron's rule denied Trump the ability to obtain loans from New York regulated financial institutions.... now Trump went outside NY... and you have a problem with that... only the appellate decision negated that rule...
     
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    Like a payday or a hard money loan.

    ‘Two gangsters trying to film flam the courts.
     
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    "IF not following the rules"

    How funny that Engoron's rule denied Trump the ability to obtain loans from New York regulated financial institutions.... now Trump went outside NY... and you have a problem with that... only the appellate decision negated that rule...[/QUOTE]

    A bond is not a loan. So your note is irrelevant.

    Besides Trump went hat in hand to 40 different bonding and insurance companies. nobody would touch him, much less indemnify his finances. They all knew better.

    why do you think that Russian interests and affiliates have been the only people who would cover Trump for the last 25 years.
     
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    Don Hankey made his fortune with high-risk loans to customers denied credit by most other financial institutions.

    It gives you an idea of Trump's financial situation.
     
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    "IF not following the rules"

    How funny that Engoron's rule denied Trump the ability to obtain loans from New York regulated financial institutions.... now Trump went outside NY... and you have a problem with that... only the appellate decision negated that rule...[/QUOTE]
    That's not true; post a link, I'm interested.
     
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    Yes it is.
    It is in fact a foundation of our legal system and therefore our country.
    Americans do not think anyone should be above the law, no matter who they are.

    Consider;
    Over the last 8 years, basically since Trump came down the escalator, he has been investigated 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44 times. More than any other public figure in history, so far as I can determine. These investigations have been on both the Federal and local level. Some have been civil, most criminal. Trump has not been convicted of any criminal charges and the civil convictions are under appeal. Considering that prosecuting attorneys do not like cases that are less than a slam dunk, this is an abysmal record. It is why we keep asking the question;

    "Is Trump really that clean, or are his persecutors that incompetent?"
    And the answer is;
    "YES"
    Now, the argument could be made that Trump is indeed a bad man and has survived only because his legal team is the best money can buy.

    Perhaps.

    But at the other end of the legal scales, lets look, shall we?
    • Hillary Clinton destroys e mails, cell phones and laptops that have been subpoenaed and gets a pass. Remember the stink over the secret service phones after January 6? Hillary got a pass because the FBI/DOJ imposed their own standard of proof and an FBI agent by the name of Strozk decided on his own to give Hillary special consideration.
    • Bill Clinton is accused of groping a state employee by the name of Paula Jones and his response is to attack Jones as a "money grubbing publicity seeker" and Hilary joins in. The case settles years later. Trump is accused of groping a woman in a department store at some point in the last decade. Evidence she claims to have is withheld (the dress she claims she was wearing) with the blessing of the court. With no witnesses, no evidence and the statute of limitations irrelevant in this case, Trump is convicted of assault and defamation. The defamation because he said he didn't know the woman, she was lying, and she wasn't "his type."
    • Nancy Pelosi, by any account, is the insider trading queen. For years she and hubby have made huge money trading on insider information. Martha Stewart wonders how that works. So does the rest of the free world.
    • Nancy Pelosi just "happens" to become the developer of 600 acres of prime San Francisco real estate (Hunters Point) when a former military base is surplused. She, her family, and her cronies will make huge money by the time the project finishes, and she even got the US Government to clean the site up as a hazardous waste site and gosh, In the process much of the preliminary heavy (and expensive) excavation work got done courtesy of taxpayers. Magine that. Meanwhile Trump is skewered because he builds and licenses hotels all over the world.
    • Biden threatens to withhold aid from Ukraine unless they fire a prosecutor looking into Hunter's business. Biden brags about it. Trump asks for information on the case in a recorded, witnessed call to Ukraine and suggests maybe aid is an issue. Trump gets indicted.
    • Biden, Pence, and Trump all have top secret documents tucked away in their files after they leave office. The law does not require intent or purpose, only possession. Trump is indicted, Pence and Biden get a pass.
    • The issues surrounding Trump's conviction for "fraud" in New York are well documented here.
    There's more, but you see the point; we keep seeing some public figures given a pass for various sketchy reasons. Trump is, being charitable to government, held to the very letter of the law.
     
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    The appeals are unlikely to succeed and the crimes he was criminally indicted for were watched by millions on TV ... or streamed. He has the whole legal system bending over backward to make sure that when he IS tried there will be no question of fairness.
    It's not abysmal, the only thing unusual is the latitude he's being granted in postponing his trials.


    The "answer" is undetermined; so far but not looking good for tRaitor tRump.
    Two words; Alina Habba.
    [​IMG]

    https://media1.tenor.com/m/4nO578j2ikcAAAAC/nope.gifBut at the other end of the legal scales, lets look, shall we?
    • Hillary Clinton destroys e mails, cell phones and laptops that have been subpoenaed and gets a pass. Remember the stink over the secret service phones after January 6? Hillary got a pass because the FBI/DOJ imposed their own standard of proof and an FBI agent by the name of Strozk decided on his own to give Hillary special consideration.
    • Bill Clinton is accused of groping a state employee by the name of Paula Jones and his response is to attack Jones as a "money grubbing publicity seeker" and Hilary joins in. The case settles years later. Trump is accused of groping a woman in a department store at some point in the last decade. Evidence she claims to have is withheld (the dress she claims she was wearing) with the blessing of the court. With no witnesses, no evidence and the statute of limitations irrelevant in this case, Trump is convicted of assault and defamation. The defamation because he said he didn't know the woman, she was lying, and she wasn't "his type."
    • Nancy Pelosi, by any account, is the insider trading queen. For years she and hubby have made huge money trading on insider information. Martha Stewart wonders how that works. So does the rest of the free world.
    • Nancy Pelosi just "happens" to become the developer of 600 acres of prime San Francisco real estate (Hunters Point) when a former military base is surplused. She, her family, and her cronies will make huge money by the time the project finishes, and she even got the US Government to clean the site up as a hazardous waste site and gosh, In the process much of the preliminary heavy (and expensive) excavation work got done courtesy of taxpayers. Magine that. Meanwhile Trump is skewered because he builds and licenses hotels all over the world.
    • Biden threatens to withhold aid from Ukraine unless they fire a prosecutor looking into Hunter's business. Biden brags about it. Trump asks for information on the case in a recorded, witnessed call to Ukraine and suggests maybe aid is an issue. Trump gets indicted.
    • Biden, Pence, and Trump all have top secret documents tucked away in their files after they leave office. The law does not require intent or purpose, only possession. Trump is indicted, Pence and Biden get a pass.
    • The issues surrounding Trump's conviction for "fraud" in New York are well documented here.
    There's more, but you see the point; we keep seeing some public figures given a pass for various sketchy reasons. Trump is, being charitable to government, held to the very letter of the law.[/QUOTE]

    Wuuuut? You've had your thump on the scales the whole post. :eyepopping:
     

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