A Practical Guide to Defeating MAGA

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  1. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Uh, maybe because there's not really a case there?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is stupid.

    I bet people like you can't even tell us exactly what he did to deserve it.
    (Not what he was charged with, but what he did)

    I actually made a past thread about it:
    The problem with the case against Cohen

    In my personal opinion, it was mostly a witch hunt, and they never would have investigated him so deeply or gone after him like they did if it hadn't been for his connections to Trump.

    But hey, maybe politically-motivated prosecutions are part of the strategy against MAGA?
     
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  3. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    You have to forgive her. She's Australian. I don't know anything about Australian politics either. But then, I also don't comment on them.
     
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    In that case will the jury not find him innocent?
     
  5. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    From what I've seen of that lame case, probably.
     
  6. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    I follow enough to get the gist but you have not answered the question. He was named as “individual one” Cohen served time for this same offence

     
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    So? Then why the panic?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You understand how people can be pushed into pleading guilty, don't you?
    Even in some cases when they shouldn't have to plead guilty.

    I don't think his serving prison time, by itself, really proves anything.
    Unless you are naive enough to believe that courts always do the right thing and never abuse the law.

    Maybe you are not aware of this, but it's common knowledge among all lawyers that if a prosecutor really wanted to put you in prison, they could come up with some legal justification and probably make a case out of it. It's really easy to do against a kind of slimy businessman from NYC who has a lot of business dealings.
     
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  9. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Who's panicking?
     
  10. Nemesis

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    Why not?
     
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    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Bragg's an idiot.
     
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    Not exactly a brilliant legal analysis.
     
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    Neither is yours.
     
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    In the end, the only "problem" is that it's the Donald and one of his associates, ergo no laws should apply to them.
     
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    Then again, maybe not.
     
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    And you base this on what, beyond your personal bias?
     
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    And you somehow do any different?
     
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    I'm not making the claim here. You are. And it's a pretty unrealistic one at that.
     
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    How so? Where do you get your expertise to determine that?
     
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    I didn't offer one.
     
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    Why would anybody want to defeat making America great again? Just leave if you don't like the country.
     
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    While it is good thing to try to sensibly organize an overall strategy of citizen involvement, I don't know that I would call what I heard in your clip, "clever." It was very common sense advice, trying to get Democrats to raise the profile of their issues of concern, much as the Tea Party Republicans, and many others, have done in the past. While I also, totally support the idea of getting Republicans on the record, over these controversial topics, I do not believe this precludes them from later using some lame excuse or other, to do the exact opposite of what they now call their positions.
     
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    And yet a “grand jury” reviewed this case. If nothing was there the case would have been dropped

    Oh! And BTW that pressure on Cohen to plead? Didn’t happen under Biden…….
     
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    Because Trumpism is the polar opposite of "making America great again"?
     
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    Ironically, it's those who think this country is not great who are ruining it. They should leave. Maybe they could move to Russia and make it great. Start by bringing a much-needed revolution to overthrow Putler.
     

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