A Practical Guide to Defeating MAGA

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Bowerbird, Mar 7, 2023.

  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2009
    Messages:
    92,721
    Likes Received:
    74,153
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Yes he has said as much to me - and now I keep reading his posts in a Scottish accent :p
     
  2. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2009
    Messages:
    38,381
    Likes Received:
    14,787
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The reason it will make a difference over time is that people tend to believe what they hear repeatedly. The democrats are experts and pushing narratives continually until they gain some acceptance. I think republicans are learning to do the same thing. I wish we would just straighten up instead.

    High crime rates result from woke soft prosecutors in the large liberal cities that don't do their jobs. If there is little or no consequence for crime, you will get more crime. The rest of nation has normal crime rates. Where I live, there is almost no crime at all. Voting these prosecutors out of office and replacing them with people who will do the job will make a great difference. There must be consequences for crime.

    It may help make grooming less popular. See the first paragraph above.

    The problem with the economy is profligate government spending that causes debt and monetary expansion which, in turn make our currency less valuable. Wokeness has nothing to do with it. I can't imagine why you included it in your post.

    Hunter Biden won't hurt anybody. However, there is evidence that he sells or sold his father's political influence and that is something that should be investigated and known by the public whether or not it is true. You reduce corruption by shining a light on it. You know that as well as I do.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,926
    Likes Received:
    63,214
    Trophy Points:
    113
    see, you get it, extremes are extremes, MAGA is no better
     
  4. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Messages:
    16,982
    Likes Received:
    5,731
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The solution is simple, nominate candidates that are more acceptable to the independent, swing voters than MAGA candidates. If Gallup’s latest party affiliation figures are accurate, the Republican party’s base is at 25% of the electorate, the Democratic party’s base also at 25% while independents come in at 49%. Which simply means independents, swing voters will decide most general elections. I think Gallup’s figures are low where party affiliation of the base is concerned and too high on independents. I’d put it at 30-30 for the bases and 40% for independents, swing voters. Even so, independents, swing voters are still election deciders in most general elections.


    In 2022, Mastriano, Oz, Tshibaka, Palin, Walker, Laxalt, Diehl, Cox, Masters, Lake, Bolduc and more all lost to better candidates viewed more acceptable by swing voters. On average, non-Trump chosen candidates received 10 points more votes than Trump chosen candidates.


    In 2020 Biden was an acceptable candidate to independents to replace Trump. Independents voted for Biden 54-41 over Trump. In 2024 63% of independents don’t want Biden to run again. It could be a huge mistake to run him again as in 2020 he was acceptable to independents, in 2024 he may not be. In fact, in the hypothetical rematch of 2020 election, if the election was held today, 32% of independents say they’d vote for Biden, 36% for Trump, 7% other or third party, 7% not sure, 19% would not vote.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/qsy7ekuxik/econTabReport.pdf


    Big difference between 2020 with swing voters going to Biden by 13 points, today Biden trailing by 4 points. Perhaps Biden isn’t that acceptable candidate to face Trump again. Long time to go yet, these numbers will change and probably change drastically over time. But they are a warning sign that Biden isn’t that acceptable candidate to swing voters he once was.
     

Share This Page