A puppet of Iran

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Only the spitting, smearing and cursing Zionist state could possibly get away with insulting an American like US General Martin Dempsey, and walking away from it.

    For US General Martin Dempsey was smeared as a 'puppet of Iran', by the senile and psychotic Netenyahu.

    Just consider that for a few moments.

    What a bloody insult eh? But then we are speaking about the same Zionist PM who said 911 was 'good for Zionism' (Israel), and who has openly boasted how easy it is to manipulate Americans.

    So, not only does it not surprise me that the PM of this arrogant and ill mannered little state can slur an American in this manner, but that the like of John McCain cannot unbuckle his trousers fast enough, in anticipation of taking more from 'Israel'.

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    When Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu charged US General Martin Dempsey as a puppet of Iran this week, two top-ranking US lawmakers were also visiting abroad. Neither Senators John McCain nor Lindsey Graham came to refute those claims, however.

    Responding to US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Martin Dempsey’s reasoning that a strike on Iran would be “destabilizing” for peace talks and “not prudent” for America’s efforts, PM Binyamin Netanyahu critiqued the respected military official this week as unwilling to aid the allied Israel. Dempsey’s comments, said the prime minister, “served the Iranians” and would only worsen international relations when all parties are attempting a resolution for the conflict.

    Israel and neighboring Iran are currently at odds, and some members of the American intelligence community are concerned that Tehran could be working towards procuring a nuclear warhead. President Obama has publically expressed resolving the matter with words, to which Israel has charged him with being “hesitant” and have hinted at attacking their enemy themselves. Over the weekend, Gen. Dempsey added that a US-led attack would not resolve the matter and said that an immediate strike “wouldn’t achieve their long-term objectives

    Netanyahu was fast to come down on Dempsey from Israel. Also on location, however, were Senators McCain and Graham, who were quick to comment on the back-and-forth, all while failing to come to the defense of the general.

    Siding separately from Dempsey, McCain told reporters in Jerusalem on Tuesday that “There should be no daylight between America and Israel in our assessment of the [Iranian] threat.”

    “Unfortunately there clearly is some,” added the Senator.

    The remarks came only hours after the senator sat down with Netanyahu, who just earlier had called Dempsey a servant of Iran.

    McCain added that the differences between how Washington and Jerusalem view Iran has caused “significant tension,” and according to the senator, “there is very little doubt that Iran has so far been undeterred to get nuclear weapons.” As rumors abound, however, there has yet to be any confirmation as to the progress of the alleged nuke procurement.

    Responding to the disagreement between allies, McCain said, “obviously it’s not helpful if there is a well-publicized tension between the US and Israel. We would like to see the United States and Israel agree on course of action that will lead us toward a goal we both share.” Although the US has not taken Israel’s heed to hit Iran yet, Washington currently contributes around $3 billion annually to Jerusalem.

    When Senator Lindsey Graham was asked for his input, he remarked from overseas "I admire General Dempsey,” but was reluctant to defend his allegation of a strike be destabilizing. "People are giving Israel a lot of advice here lately from America,” said Graham. “I just want to tell our Israeli friends that my advice to you is never lose control of your destiny. Never allow a situation to develop that would destroy the Jewish state."


    http://rt.com/usa/news/mccain-dempsey-netanyahu-iran-063/
     
  2. trout mask replica

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    The thing is, instead of the US punishing Israel for this kind of behaviour, it rewards it. Israel is the number one US client state in the region - it's 'watchdog' of the ME if you like. But the Israeli tail can never wag the US dog. It's a mutually beneficial relationship that overides the rhetoric on the surface. But there are limits. General Petraeus, for example, has publicly described the pariah settler state, as a "strategic liability", arguably because of the latters tendency to commit one PR disaster after another. Israel is akin to a wild dog that's increasingly straining on its US leash.
     
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    YAWN. A notoriously disreputable russian website (Rt.com) is the only source of this baseless slander, not even the usual anti-israel websites picked up this obvious nonsense. The islamofascists on this forum must be desperate. LOL Oh and the article is dated February 24, hardly "the latest world news". Just another proof that Jewhaters and neo-nazis of all stripes have no shame, no self-respect and no regard for the rules of the community.
     
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    ...And you have?....LOL.
     
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    The only US "ally" to have ever attacked and killed US officials and citizens. See Lavon affair and of course, the infamous USS Liberty murders, for the false flag terror committed by Israel that have been declassified so far.

    The most destructive and damaging espionage program to ever be conducted on US soil, was carried out by an Israeli spy...in fact, Israel conducts the most espionage on the US, than any of it's "allies"

    Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu said "9/11 was good for Israel"..."swung public opinion in our favour"

    Yet, Israel continues to get tax-payer money and free US military equipment. aid totally $3 billion annually.

    You really do have to question the loyalties of a number of dual US-Israeli citizens in the White house. A disproportionate number when compared to the % of Israelis living in America.

    What a friend the US has in Israel, indeed. With such friends, who needs enemies?
     
  6. Mialily

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    Thank you for this bit of legitimate history the first I think I have seen on this site. Also I was not informed of this thank you for that as well.

    So we are allied with murders of are countrymen. That makes me a little sick to my stomach
     
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    Your welcome. I'm just doing my bit to enlighten as many people as possible. To expose the toxic relationship between the US and Israel.

    If my above comment made you sick to your stomach, I cannot imagine how you'd feel knowing that Israel honored the "Lavon Affair" terrorists.

    You read that right, the "Lavon Affair" which was the Israeli false flag plot to blow up US, British and Egyptian interests in Egypt, incluidng an American cinema - the attack was to be blamed on Egypt to get the US to die for Israel in yet another war...

    Imagine, these treasonous terrorists were honored by Israel in 2005. Of course, never seen on western media.

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    They attacked the US, got rewarded by Israel, how did the US respond? quite simply, more bombs and more money for Israel.

    One wonders when Israel will "honor" the murderers of the 34 US servicemen, and the 171 wounded on the faithful day of the USS Liberty attack.
     
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    Of course you needed to go half a century back to dig up this dirt...and you conveniently forgot to mention that a dozen American investigations concluded quite unanimously and unambiguously that USS Liberty was a friendly fire incident. Such incidents happen routinely during wars even nowadays, when technology is infinitely better than it was in 1967 and no one gives them a second thought...unless Israel is involved, then regardless of how many investigations clear Israel of any wrongdoing, it's still a JOOISH conspiracy. What else is new?
     
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    That you learn history from biased dishonest anonymous bloggers on the internet makes you a little sick in your head. The US is actually allied with the UK, Germany, Japan and lots of other countries that were enemies at one point of time or another. As far as Israel is concerned see my response above.
     
  10. Mialily

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    While I agree there are many friendly fire incidents, very few of those incidents are on boats because ALL US boats boast a large American flag and USS on them directly indicated who the ship belongs too. So rather it was extremely pitiful recon or blatant attack either way not forgivable.

    I'm in no way anti Israel or Pro Iran. I see facts the facts don't look good for Israel in this case.
     
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    I researched quite a bit before I commented, I took his original post with a grain of salt, like I said I just find it extremely hard to believe they did not know who this ship belonged too.
     
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    Whatever. And of course you find it quite easy to believe that a dozen american congressional and military investigations which concluded that it was a case of mistaken identity all lied because they are all in the pockets of evil murderous Zionists. Why am I not surprised?

    At any rate, the sh*t happened 50+ years ago, the fact that Israel haters have to go so far back to dig up dirt on Israel is quite telling. That today Americans are killed by Islamists all over the world (including Hamas and other palestinian terror groups) does not stop these Israel-hating Islamofascist hypocrites from supporting every enemy of the US. They are just trying to drive a wedge between America and Israel to benefit their Islamic allies who are the real enemies and who do kill and want to continue killing americans. Don't make any mistake about it.
     
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    You see the Islamic Imperialist swine seem to have a soft spot for the American military when they can use it to bash Jews and attempt to drive a wedge with blatant propaganda, they never do tire of their outright (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lies, all Netanyahu said was that the statement served Iran not that Dempsey served Iran or was an Iranian puppet or anything similar, just more blatant propaganda from Islamic Imperialists and their Jew hating supporters.
     
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    Well the fact is that released NSA audio recordings of the incident prove that Israel was still under the impression that it was an Egyptian ship even after the attack when they were requesting Arabic translators when launching the bordering mission to capture survivors.
     
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    So it was okay for Israel to attack and ask questions later? I'm not blaming Israel completely it may have honestly been a mistake but it was a terrible mistake that should not have just been so easily forgotten.

    Reports from crew say they waved at the Israel's jets, You can tell me with a straight face seeing hundreds of Americans on a ship would not tip you off it was a American ship?

    Also digging a little further I find that the USS Liberty was not were it was suppose to be a mistake on the US. It seems that this could have easly been a extremely botched attack mission ran by imbecile but I believe America should have had General Yitzhak Rabin's job.

    I also want to state again I'm neither Pro Israel or Iran I believe that its non of America's business.
     
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    The people saying it was "friendly fire" disgust me with your utter ignroance and lack of compassion for those that perished that day. It's pretty clear from ALL the evidence so far that Israel was fully aware it was an American ship.

    Israeli Pilot speaks out

    Undisputed facts about USS Liberty incident

    More proof it was deliberate

    USS liberty veterans association

    The USS Liberty at the time was arguably THE most identifiable and unique ship of its time, there was no possible way it could be mistaken for anything else. It was armed with nothing more than a .50 cal machine gun, yet Israel say they attacked because they got reports it was conducting "bombardments"

    The ship was inspected and surveyed many times before the attack commenced, with the US flag clearly flying on the mast. After the attack, a larger sized US flag was also raised and that didn't stop the attack. NSA Intercepts of Israeli pilots show they reported back to HQ that "It was clearly an American ship, an ally"

    WHY DID ISRAEL attack the ship with UNMARKED AIRCRAFT? surely, if they mistook the ship to be Egyptian, and they were at war with Egypt at the time, why on earth did they see the need to make use of UNMARKED aircraft, and not clearly defined Israeli aircraft? this single fact proves they knew it was an American ship.

    I'm not even American myself, yet those who call themselves Americans can deny this fact because of their undying support for Israeli. 34 men died, 171 injured, most grievously. And you can sit there on your laptops and say it was "just a mistake" when there's clear and insurmountable evidence to the contrary. Wow, I'm simply and deeply shocked.
     
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    U.S. government investigations - American inquiries, memoranda, records of testimony, and various reports involving or mentioning the Liberty attack include, but are not limited to, the following:



    And lest we forget:

    In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.2 million in 2012) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty itself plus 13 years' interest.
     
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    We should have leveled israel to the ground in June of 1967, but for some reason LBJ didn't have the balls to do it.
     
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    You managed to scare me now, shall we return to the 21st century?
     
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    Why did they attack with unmarked aircraft Borat?

    Why, if they knew it was an Egyptian ship, did they jam US signals?

    Why did they strafe the life boats, that's a direct violation of international war law. Clearly they didn't want any survivors.

    Please Borat, no point posting investigations done way back in 1967-80s. When everyone from the US administration was hell bent on covering up what happened. Of course, the investigations wouldn't yield any results. Isn't it funny that from 2003 on-wards, reports clearly begin to indicate Israel had prior knowledge it was a US ship and there is a cover up?
     
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    LOL because they all disagree with your pre-existing biases? I apologize for the inconvenience they may have caused but by all means don't let the conclusions of dozens of official investigations get in the way of your Israel bashing. Not that you give a flying f*ck about the lives of american troops in the first place, your ilk is dancing when they are killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Your only objective is to drive a wedge between allies lying and making sh*t up about ancient history.

    Please explain this:

    English transcripts of the released [NSA] tapes indicate that Israel still believed it had hit an Egyptian supply ship even after the attack had stopped. After the attack, the rescue helicopters are heard relaying several urgent requests that the rescuers ask the first survivor pulled out of the water what his nationality is, and discussing whether the survivors from the attacked ship will speak Arabic.

    A summary report of the NSA-translated tapes indicates that at 1234Z Hatzor air control began directing two Israeli Air Force helicopters to an Egyptian warship, to rescue its crew: "This ship has now been identified as Egyptian."

     
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    Hahaha - BoRat you've surpassed yourself with that hilarious joke
    Israel paying the US Government with US Taxpayers money received from US Government.

    Only the Chosen ones can get away with paying the dumb US Goyim with their own money.


    LOL .
     
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    BoRat - stop your personal attacks its uncalled for..
     
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    A good and fair summary.

    Not to mention that one of the most active US based terrorist group since 1980....the so named Jewish Defence League.

    And that's while your elite have pandered to them.

    Imagine they didn't.

    They would happily rain regular terrorism down on the US, those Zionist extremists.

    Like they did when their terror groups blew up the King David Hotel.

    Jack
     
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    The US defense funds started at 1985......,

    The guns US sent Israel before and since are paid for, countries do have an income you know...
     

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