"a whole bunch of African-American kids beating and stomping on an elderly Caucasian

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Imagine the NONSTOP MEDIA FRENZY if this were white PUNKS beating an elderly black man...
     
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    Conservative Black Larry Elder just penned a book about this direct
    dilemna.About the black Community and the impending crisis of Fatherless
    homes.Elder is smart,honest and very down to earth.
    Everything that Al Sharpton isn't.Which explains why Sharpton has
    an audience with the President.And why Sharpton refuses to debate Elder.
     
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    I think the current ******* narrative is to pee on yourself...oh wait, that's for a rapist, nm.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    The mainstream media would be foaming at the mouth like mad dogs.
     
  6. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    When drug trafficking and gang banging pay better than almost any other job that they can get, they're going to get involved with the culture. It's simple economics. What is the collective blow back from ending the war on drugs, by the way? Also, one of the things holding them back is poverty. I think they understand that they're poor.
     
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    Increased? Are you nuts?

    What needs to happen is to begin teaching people that they need to be responsible for themselves and have some personal integrity. To be productive. They need to learn that there are certain priorities and obligations in life and that iPhones, big screen tv's, mega-blasting car stereos, $150 sneakers and the like are not the top priorities.

    You can't eat steak on a hamburger wallet and you just might actually have to work your way up to steak. You don't start at the top.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Less economic opportunity for black males? "It's simple economics" as you say.

    I answered your earlier post BTW.
     
  9. Wake_Up

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    Indeed, so why do we not see more people drug trafficking in general then, if it pays so much better?

    Sorry, that's an excuse, and not a particularly good one.

    Of course they understand they are poor, no one is debating that. The problem is their reasoning for WHY they are poor. When you foment consistent and pervasive racism against "whitey", then this is what you get. When you continually subject yourself to the democratic promises of "we'll take care of you", this is what you get....and when you don't get what you want, then you start demanding by way of things, like "make the rich pay their fair share". I've always thought that an interesting concept considering those clamoring for it are the ones paying nothing at all.

    America is the land of opportunity. Everyone has heard that. Interestingly nothing in that statement says anything about a hand out or freebies. The entire "where's my free (*)(*)(*)(*)" business has gotten incredibly ridiculous.

    We can't have welfare users pee in a cup because it's "unconstitutional" (but perfectly fine for those who are working). We can't make anyone show up to the welfare office to do some work to help earn the hand out, because it's unconstitutional. We can't limit what food stamp users or other forms of government assistance users buy with the money, because it's unconstitutional.

    Well, there ya go, welcome to the system and the culture that has been created by all these welfare systems and constant oppression by people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farakhan, democrats and the left wing race guilty liberals with the promises of taking care of them by taking from others.

    I'm sorry, drug trafficking probably does pay much better, but that's no excuse. Unskilled jobs do not pay skilled wages (unless you're in a union, but that's a whole other issue), so get used to it, suck it buttercup, get off your lazy ass and get to work.
     
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    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if you know this... but we do.

    Nobody pays "nothing at all". Nobody.

    Except America is NOT a land of opportunity. Compare the social mobility in America to other countries, especially in Europe, we rank pretty low.

    We shouldn't have welfare users randomly drug tested because the cost far outweighs the benefits since research has shown that those on welfare are not more likely to use/be dependent on drugs or are barely more likely to use/be dependent on drugs. Welfare has work requirements and has had them since 1996. And, SNAP is limited to certain things.
     
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    Sure, here ya go.

     
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    Not true. Low wage workers, or those on welfare are not paying intot he system, they are taking from the system. Through tax incenctives some are getting back more than they paid in for those who do work.

    Then move to Europe! America is a land of opportunity. If it were not then we would not have multiple examples of successful people, of all colors and walks of life.

    The SAPRP disagrees with you:

    Key Research Findings
    Substance Abuse Trends among Welfare Recipients
    Harold A. Pollack, Ph.D., University of Michigan

    Although almost 20 percent of welfare recipients report recent use of some illicit drug during the year, only a small minority satisfies internationally accepted diagnostic criteria for drug or alcohol dependence.
    Illicit drug use and dependence are more common among women receiving welfare than among women who do not. Drug use is a risk factor for welfare receipt, even after controlling for race, educational attainment, region and other factors.
    Alcohol dependence also appears more prevalent among women receiving welfare than among those who do not, though this effect is smaller and more ambiguous than is the case for drugs.
    The prevalence of illicit drug use among welfare recipients nationally declined between 1990 and 1998, although recipients are more likely than non-recipients to use drugs.


    The bottom line remains, if my employer makes me pee in a cup, so should the government do so for those requesting welfare. the government reularly had me pee in a cup during my military career.

    Not buying the "it'll cost too much" argument, especially given the ridiculous deficits the current administration has no problem running up. Same for rounding up the illegals. Just think of the jobs it will create....

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    Not true. Low wage workers, or those on welfare are not paying intot he system, they are taking from the system. Through tax incenctives some are getting back more than they paid in for those who do work.

    Then move to Europe! America is a land of opportunity. If it were not then we would not have multiple examples of successful people, of all colors and walks of life.

    The SAPRP disagrees with you:

    Key Research Findings
    Substance Abuse Trends among Welfare Recipients
    Harold A. Pollack, Ph.D., University of Michigan

    Although almost 20 percent of welfare recipients report recent use of some illicit drug during the year, only a small minority satisfies internationally accepted diagnostic criteria for drug or alcohol dependence.
    Illicit drug use and dependence are more common among women receiving welfare than among women who do not. Drug use is a risk factor for welfare receipt, even after controlling for race, educational attainment, region and other factors.
    Alcohol dependence also appears more prevalent among women receiving welfare than among those who do not, though this effect is smaller and more ambiguous than is the case for drugs.
    The prevalence of illicit drug use among welfare recipients nationally declined between 1990 and 1998, although recipients are more likely than non-recipients to use drugs.


    The bottom line remains, if my employer makes me pee in a cup, so should the government do so for those requesting welfare. the government reularly had me pee in a cup during my military career.

    Not buying the "it'll cost too much" argument, especially given the ridiculous deficits the current administration has no problem running up. Same for rounding up the illegals. Just think of the jobs it will create....
     
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    They don't pay local taxes or payroll taxes?

    Yeah, pretty much every first world nation has examples of successful people from all walks of life. The question is whether or not America has better social mobility in general, not for a small population of people. And, it doesn't.

    I'm not seeing how this study disagrees with me. A small minority are dependent on drugs or alcohol and only around 10% of welfare recipients recorded using an illicit drug other than marijuana in the past year. Secondly, the study talks about how drug use and dependence is more common among WOMEN receiving welfare, but it doesn't state how much more common it is. I left open the possibility that there was a slight difference in commonality.
     
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    That's why that argument has already all but died out, and now Obama and his pals are reduced to talking about background checks (something that would not have helped in the Newtown shooting and probably some others as well).

    The answer to all this stuff is for law-abiding people to be armed and able to defend themselves. If Lockhart had been simply carrying (with a license) a handgun, it's very possible that the punks would have ran like scared chickens, as soon as they saw it. If they pressed toward the victim, he could.should have just started firing at them, and they would have either been shot, or run away.
     
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    The incident mentioned by the OP would not have occurred if the elderly white man had avoided Black people like the plague. The moral of this story is to avoid Black people everywhere no matter what. Better safe than sorry.
     
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    The media is covering-up the black attacks on whites, so he may not have known.


    [video=youtube;DtSJSKr-rH0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtSJSKr-rH0[/video]
     
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    I guess, I'll open this up to any progressive, since I never got a reply.
     
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    Exactly, give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats,,,,,,,f that....give a man an EBT card youll feed him for a lifetime.
     
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    That is certainly a good and time-tested strategy.....
     
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    Bernie Goetz?
     
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    Got to love that "Guns dont protect people" argument. When it is you or a family member they come for you will wish you had it, or that your loved one was protected. This guy lucked out, and good brave people came to save him. Most people these days would walk by.

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    Got to love that "Guns dont protect people" argument. When it is you or a family member they come for you will wish you had it, or that your loved one was protected. This guy lucked out, and good brave people came to save him. Most people these days would walk by.
     
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    You might not like guns, and that's ok. You might even be atheist, and that's your choice, but if you are confronted by a thug, two things will happen;

    1. You'll wish you had a gun
    2. You'll pray the cops get there in time
     
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    When I was a night student at college, I got out of class at 10:45 PM to find my car surrounded by vehicles belonging to blacks that were attending a gospel singing at a nearby auditorium. I had no way to get around the illegally parked cars, so I went to the auiditorium for help. I was surrounded by blacks calling me whitey and asking me "What is you?". I left but was followed and taunted by a group of blacks,. I called police who showed up with at least 5 wreckers who bagan impounding the cars. As I pulled out to go home. I laughed and thought about how the blacks would feel at 1:00 AM when they found their cars missing.
     
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    This is why I have a 44 magnum. End of srory.
     
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    Kids these days, no respect for elderly people.:steamed:
     

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