It was better for you I guess. Yo mama didn't abort you now did she? I bet she was ignorant of all the 'risks' of a pregnancy too. Huh? Too bad you weren't there to remind her.
Well....Your post was nonsense in the first place, I thought it was a joke. Like I told Cady, too bad you weren't there to warn your mother before she conceived YOU.
Any pregnant woman carries a constant reminder of the pain and discomfort, lack of mobility and freedom, and the many complications pregnancy brings. The damage to their bodies from pregnancy will be a lifelong reminder. The fact that most women are willing to sacrifice their bodies and lives and take those risks because they want a child doesn't mean that any woman should be forced to. It is no tribute to your own mother that you fail to appreciate or even acknowledge the sacrifices women make to give birth.
Typical Anti-Choice misogynistic response.....Anti-Choice feigned concerned for the life of the fetus but none for actual living people....not even their own mothers... And you as usual will not and cannot refute my post even though you claim it's nonsense.
It's sickening that the misogyny extends to their own mothers....and a poster called Pro-Choicers sociopaths!?!!
It IS nonsense and I just proved it. You get your hackles up when I suggest that you might not exist if your mother were brainwashed into thinking pregnancy was more dangerous than abortion. Moreover, you had to reach into your pro-abort libbie bag of mantras to come up with 'misogynistic' which is meaningless to what I posted about your laundry list of possible pregnancy problems. Do you drive? You do realize the long laundry list of things that COULD happen to you don't you? Yet most people drive anyway. Hey, everyone who has lived has died....That must mean that life is 'dangerous' too. Do you realize that an abortion results in 100% fatality of the fetus? That's pretty 'dangerous' isn't it? You people claim to be 'pro-choice' but the only 'choice' you promote is death to the fetus.
Funny, most mothers I know carry a 'constant reminder' of how beautiful and precious their children are. Where did I EVER post a woman should be forced into pregnancy? You just can't seem to stop lying can you? More lies....It is getting very tiresome sifting through all you people's twisted lies while you refuse to address the most important thing about sex and childbearing....morality. Tell me Cady, why do you think it is moral to kill a fetus for convenience-sake? And don't give me that diatribe about how it eliminates unwanted children....There should be no unwanted children with all the contraception methods available today. 3,000+ abortions EVERY DAY Cady. EVERY DAY.....That is not indicative of PLANNING....it is indicative of a death cult.
As you have been told many times (but have that comprehension problem) Pro-Choice means exactly that, the pregnant woman gets to choose. Pro-Choice does not promote abortion. ...it promotes the right of women to choose....something Anti-Choicers want to take away and FORCE their choice on women.
LOL! Now it's "morality" segue when shown you don't give a damn what happened to your own mother.....
I have voiced a concern that once you dehumanize a particular human life, in this case the unborn, for the purpose of being able to devalue human life so as to make abortion for convenience acceptable, this will affect the value of human life in that society, and in a negative manner. A recent poll showed that younger people in substantial numbers now believe that post birth killing is acceptable. And that should have been expected for millions of new humans were conditioned with thinking that an unborn human life isn't important, so the line has been moved now to where the killing of the born is an acceptable idea. Yet, I was scoffed at for pointing out what happens when you make it accepted to take a human life for convenience. So my contention was proven by reality itself. By a change in attitude toward human life moving through a culture and then by dehumanizing we move the line forward to include other human life.
And your ignorance of the fact that abortion has been around since about the time humans have been around shows your error in thinking "life" is being "dehumanized" now. And you ignore your dehumanizing of women to the level of breeding cattle.........actual live real people.... """"A recent poll showed that younger people in substantial numbers now believe that post birth killing is acceptable""" There is no such poll...........unless you mean the people in the Pentagon and government who start wars...
See what you did there? You changed my post about "any pregnant woman" to "most mothers" in yours in an apparent attempt to shame me for stating the reality. A pregnant woman is not a mother unless she has existing children. I didn't say you did, so you would be the one lying here. What lies? Where have you shown appreciation or acknowledgement of the sacrifices women make to give birth? Incredibly, you have even denied that pregnancy is dangerous. Do you think nine months of pregnancy, childbirth, and months of recovery is nothing more than an "inconvenience"? No woman aborts for "convenience," that is a pro-life lie. And there would still be as many abortions if it were banned, PLUS more maternal deaths from botched illegal abortions. Banning abortion = more deaths= death cult.
OK then a PREGNANT WOMAN carries the reminder EVERY DAY of how precious the life insider her is...IF she is a decent, honorable and moral person. It is more than likely she will BECOME A MOTHER. And you should be ashamed trying to push the killing of a living fetus as 'good for society' and trying to tell women how 'dangerous' pregnancy is. Shame on you. You said: The damage to their bodies from pregnancy will be a lifelong reminder. The fact that most women are willing to sacrifice their bodies and lives and take those risks because they want a child doesn't mean that any woman should be forced to. Hence my answer that I am not forcing women to do that.....which wass perfectly suited to YOUR post. Proving again how you apparently can't stop lying about what I post. THIS lie....You wrote: It is no tribute to your own mother that you fail to appreciate or even acknowledge the sacrifices women make to give birth. My appreciation of a woman's pregnancy was NEVER the subject here. YOU are making schit up. I never said pregnancy was an 'inconvenience' I said abortion for convenience-sake is immoral. You twist and turn again in order to support your obvious death cult beliefs. Show me the stats that prove that 3,000+ abortions PER DAY are all due to life threatening circumstances. AGAIN you lie!! When did I EVER propose banning abortion? I am talking about MORALITY something which you have AVOIDED throughout this discussion like Dracula avoids the cross.
While I applaud your effort to speak morals to the seemingly amoral, I fear it is a wasted effort on this pro-abort crowd. Frankly, you'd be better off ignoring them. I am considering it.
Shame you can't understand that YOUR morality isn't everyone's and YOUR morality doesn't negate or rule out anyone else's morals, YOUR morality is not superior to anyone else's , YOUR morality doesn't make law. Give up, women are in control of whether or not to give birth, not you............it upsets misogynists but that's the fun part !!!.
Morality is something people have to agree upon in order for a society to function. You people seem to think that whatever 'morals' you personally espouse ought to be no one else's business. People who think like that are hedonistic, narcissistic self-serving jerks who either wish to tear down a successful society or are just trying to fulfill their personal fantasies regardless of everyone else or the greater well being of those around you. Misogynists generally want sexual access to women and girls in order to have them do their bidding. Promoting abortion seems the perfect vehicle for that.
The hackles are up simply because you show no respect for the women who make the choice to remain pregnant and there is no brainwashing involved it is a simple fact that abortion is safer than pregnancy, what you choose to ignore (funny that you get a choice) is that most women are well aware of the possible dangers yet STILL choose to remain pregnant . .you of course want to force them to face those dangers, you have no idea what so ever of what freedom of choice is. If the cap fits wear it and you do wear it well. The fact that you treat the list as nothing more than a "laundry list" shows me that you have little concern for the issues EVERY pregnant woman must face. gosh, guess what people have a CHOICE to drive or not, with your logic of making abortion illegal you would FORCE all people to drive. Pure bollocks, and BTW abortion is not 100% fatal - http://www.theabortionsurvivors.com/ - so yet another lie slips so easily from you. What part of pro-choice being advocates for a women's decisions about her body and her pregnancy to be her choice, whether to abort or not, do you fail to comprehend. Pro-life is such a pile of crap, the truth is pro-life is really pro-forced pregnancy, and most American pro-lifers are purely pro-American life anyway .. women in servitude to the state for a proportion of their lives all because they DARED to have sex without wanting to get pregnant.
The life inside her is not precious to her is she is unable to care for a child at that particular point in her life, and she is every bit as decent, honorable and moral if she chooses abortion. Having an unwanted pregnancy can be devastating to a woman, why would she think it was "precious" in that case? You should be ashamed for trying to stigmatize abortion. You only have to compare countries where abortion is legal and safe to countries where abortion is banned and women must resort to back alley butchers to determine which society is healthier. Yes, SHAME on me for stating reality. You said, "Where did I EVER post a woman should be forced into pregnancy? You just can't seem to stop lying can you?" I didn't accuse you of posting that. You brought it up when you said... "Yo mama didn't abort you now did she? I bet she was ignorant of all the 'risks' of a pregnancy too. Huh? Too bad you weren't there to remind her." My response..."It is no tribute to your own mother that you fail to appreciate or even acknowledge the sacrifices women make to give birth"...is not a lie. When you say "abortion for convenience," it implies that pregnancy/birth is nothing more than an inconvenience. That's a pro-life lie. There are no abortions for "convenience. I've never claimed they were. Do you believe pregnant women should only control of what happens to their own bodies if they are dying? I didn't say you proposed banning abortion. It is, however, a pro-life goal. You have talked MORALITY when trying to change the subject. I'm not afraid to talk about it. I have said many times that forcing a woman to use her body against her will is immoral, just like rape and slavery.
Oh for god sake all this "honarable and moral person" rubbish becomes boring .. just whose ideology are you judging others to be honourable and moral on .. yours Ok, so here is your chance to set the record straight, do you or do you not want all or some reasons for abortion to be made illegal? So in reality, despite your claims to the opposite DO want to make some forms of abortion illegal ergo you DO want to force some women to remain pregnant . .thank for clearing that up. and again it is only immoral in your opinion, thankfully you don't get to decide what morals other people adhere to and live by. Being as morality is subjective it really is irrelevant to abortion. - - - Updated - - - Please do, your incoherent rants really have no relevance to the issue.
Yep and you are pissed because your version of morality is not the one being lived by .. All morals are personal, just because certain aspects of morality are predominate in a society does not change the fact that morals are purely personal. No, pro-choice are people who accept that their moral viewpoint is a personal one understand that not everyone will agree with their morality and that society has to come to a common consensus, they also understand that abortion has no direct detrimental effect on society as a whole, they also understand that they cannot and will not force their morality onto other people . .something pro-lifers could do well to learn. Which Christmas cracker did you pull that one from. A misogynist is a person who hates or doesn't trust women, and while you may not hate women (the jury is still out on that one) you certainly don't trust them. Source : - http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/misogynist
Misogynists are generally terrified of women and any power women may have like the power to make their own decisions....do YOU promote abortions? I don't.
Shame you can't understand that YOUR morality isn't everyone's and YOUR morality doesn't negate or rule out anyone else's morals, YOUR morality is not superior to anyone else's , YOUR morality doesn't make law
