After Trump

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  1. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you go ahead and point to any post but this one where you were not trying to derail the thread.

    Meanwhile, when you're done not doing that...

    Who? Never Trumpers? Moderates, Conservatives? Junior?
    Will it change the party direction? Policy?

    It's a discussion board, discuss.

    The fact is that till this, and this is a very weak response, you done nothing but try to derail the topic.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OMG, talk about NOT GETTING IT

    lets do this nice and simple for you

    QUESTION (this is when you ask something)

    So what's next GOP.

    Used to be the VP or VP candidate would step in to lead.
    But Mike Pence? MTG? Mace? Seriously?

    Who will step in to lead the GOP after 2024?

    ANSWER (This is when you receive an answer to that thing called a question)

    Like I said, ANYONE can step in to lead the GOP. They got a reality TV star real estate mogul with a loud mouth. If he could be propped up, ANYONE can. I didn't derail anything. It was tied to the answer. Crappy democrat policies push people to the right and it doesn't really matter who the figurehead is, not as much as the policies.
    This happens in reverse as well. The abortion thing for example has pushed a decent handful of Republican women to the left. (the abortion issue will be the same issue no matter who the "leader" is
    I answered your question but in the long run its 100% IRRELEVANT

    I hope I put that answer in simple enough terms

    GOOD DAY!
     
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    Pants Well-Known Member

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    It's an interesting question - what does happen in the GOP after Trump? I honestly don't know. But I suppose that's because it's difficult to look beyond the present with so much going on. I do think there will be a very big change in how many voters are engaged in politics without him.
     
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    What happens AFTER Trump? Same thing that happens after every other president leaves office...life continues on.
     
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    If you found it relevant enough to the main topic to mention it in your OP, it is relevant enough to the main topic to be commented upon or refuted.

    He had every right to respond to your words. I find it hard to believe that anyone to whom you "reported" what you THINK is a breach of rules, would do anything other than roll their eyes at your spurious complaint. One would think that such trivialities would not have to be dealt with in what is presumably a room full of adults.
     
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    Because he isn't close to done?
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not at all.... You left out the "friendly Republican congress when they take back Congress ".
     
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    Why are people unwilling to partake in your "what if" speculation, and assumptions to satisfy your anti-Trump fantasies?

    Because most people don't sit in the political fringe radicist echo chambers.
     
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    It is not "overwhelmingly unlikely" that he wins. He has a chance, and thats why your side needs him in prison, declared ineligible, or dead. Personally, I don't want him to win, but Dems are making him look good by comparison.

    Either way, we will have an elderly, corrupt, sex offender, lame duck president no matter who wins!
     
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    Unresponsive
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's 78, obviously not healthy, he could die at any minute
    He's running in an election he will most probably lose
    If he wins, he can never run again...

    Obviously much closer to the end than he is to the beginning and much closer than you're willing to recognize.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A. Not gonna happen
    B. OK, so what happens in 2028?
     
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    If bullfrogs had wings they wouldn't bump their tiny asses when they hop
     
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    He still has a good 4 years left to make liberals cry
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only speculation on the list of potential outcomes is whether the GOP takes BOTH houses of Congress.

    Trump will be gone.
    I'm asking "what's next?"

    Wy can you not simply speculate on the future based on your knowledge of the present?
    OR
    Is the prospect of "After Trump" too frightening to face?

    I can understand your trepidation. Absent Trump, at this time, there is no GOP.
    To whom do loyalties shift starting in 2025?
    Junior? Flynn? Pillow Guy?

    Does the party rally around a more moderate figure or does MAGA take full control and the GOP becomes even more feral than today?

    What about the RNC?
    Now that the RNC is fully dominated by MAGA, is it still the philosophical center of Conservatism?

    What if Trump is convicted and sentenced. Will he roll on his fellows? What will he do to stay out of prison? Will he give up the kids?

    These are all valid questions and I see no logical reason they can't be discussed.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And then?
     
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    I could argue that the Republicans have a strong bench to have you predictably respond by exclaiming that they are weak. I could point to it being the Democrats having a weak bench to have you predictably respond by saying they are strong... But naming people at this point is irrelevant. If we look at the historical record of all recent Presidents...

    Nobody would have guessed in 1988 that Bill Clinton would win in 92.
    In 1996, Bush had just won his first term as governor so he was not yet a frontrunner for 2000.
    In 2003, Obama was not yet a Senator so despite having given a good speech at the 2004 convention, few if any would have projected him to be president in 2008
    In 2012, nobody would have ever dreamed that Trump would be President in 2016
    In 2016, nobody would have guessed that Biden would be brought out of mothballs to be President in 2020

    With all of the above, the trend is undeniable, there is zero value in predicting in 2024 who will win the presidency in 2028. Odds are, whoever you or I are thinking will not be the one. I reject your entire premise on the basis that 4 years is a lifetime in presidential politics, thus it is a waste of time making predictions this far out.
     
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    In other words you didn't like my response and now you're throwing a hissy fit. Got it. Cheers!
     
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    LOL. But but but but but, did you already forget Trump will take democracy away and install himself ad permanent dictator?
     
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    There are two possibilities.

    #1 If the Democrats sweep the House, Senate and presidency, they will pass the 2018 House Bill #1 which would federalized elections. If the Supreme Court does not block it, the result will be that there will never be another Republican president, and perhaps few Republican members of the House and Senate in the future. This is the Democrat plan, a one party country. The United States will look more and more like California.

    #2 If the Democrats fail to take any one or more of the of the above three governments entities, the plan to federalize elections will be blocked temporarily. Things will continue pretty much as they are although a second Biden administration will enact more draconian policies toward energy use and immigration.

    As for the Republican Party, a strong leader will emerge after Trump within the party. It probably won't make much difference because the Democrats will have still have control of the national elections. The illegals will count toward preserving the number Democrat seats in Congress and in the Electoral College.

    In short the far left Democrats will get what they want in the long run or the short run.

    The only factor that could block this is if there is a fundamental change in the electorate. That won't happen because the younger generations have been trained to vote Democrat by the education system. They will vote against their own interests because they believe in climate change which ultimately hands over control of most everything to the Federal Government. I have heard this point of view from my socialist nephews. They think that planet will end if we don't take drastic action headed by Democrat Party control.

    The final wild card is China. They might control America before it's over. They are buying farmland and spying on our military bases. They have friends in Congress among "The Squad" which continues to grow.
     
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    He has a 4 year term of office and after that we'll see.
     
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    No so permanent. He's 78 years old. It would be hard for Trump to keep control when he goes senile, like Biden. If the Democrats were really depending on Biden's leadership, they would be toast.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that what you think will happen or what you want to happen?
     

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