AG Barr On Universal Mail-In Voting: “This Is Playing With Fire…Very Open To Fraud And Coercion”

Nope stop with the fallacious statements.

“If you mail in a ballot a week before the election and it’s not showing up, or you’re not able to determine whether or not it’s been accepted, you can vote in person,” Patrick Gannon, a spokesman for the North Carolina Board of Elections, said on a press call Thursday. “If your ballot subsequently arrives at the county board of elections, that vote will not be counted.”

 

No lie why do you misrepresent it?

“Prior to his interview, the Attorney General was provided a memo prepared within the Department that contained an inaccurate summary about the case which he relied upon when using the case as an example.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...3aafac-ee2e-11ea-ab4e-581edb849379_story.html

 

THe fact you dont know is astounding. I suggest you do your research.

 

You’re somewhat right and Barr is a little right. It was 700 ballots not 1700:

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news...dicts-one-for-west-dallas-voter-fraud-9646968

He ended up pleading guilty to improperly returning a marked ballot(ballot harvesting is illegal in Texas and legal in California).

 

What part of it's illegal “to induce” someone else to fraudulently cast a ballot didn't you understand?

 

Nationwide mail-in-voting is hypothetical, so one could make the argument that Trump's suggestion of how to verify a hypothetical voting system is likewise hypothetical, lol.

I can see how this logic confuses some people.

 

The case in question was not a case, rather an investigation of 700 ballots that listed the same man as having helped the individual voters cast them, but the ballots did not favor one candidate or party, and some were blank. The Justice Department investigated, found the ballots to be legitimate, and charged no one.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/prosecutors-dispute-barrs-claim-of-voter-fraud-case-with-1700-ballots

pleaded guilty in the case to improperly returning a marked ballot.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...3aafac-ee2e-11ea-ab4e-581edb849379_story.html

 

Oh please stop. To much laughing.
He was talking to voters in NC..

 

This case has to do with a security hole in the Dallas voting system. That hole can be fixed easily.

The "methodology" used by this criminal could not have succeeded in OR, WA, CO or other states where everyone votes by mail.

 

That's the assumption, lol. No proof of that claim, though. We have no idea how many votes have been illegally tossed, lost, misvoted, etc.

There's LOTS of ways the criminal could have succeeded.

 

Interpretation: I have nothing relevant to add so I'll type some tripe and fudge it in a feeble attempt to cover up my cluelessness...

 

You can believe what you want but the objective reality is I am correct

 

I know the WA system reasonably well.

So, describe a method of cheating our system.

I'll point out that the one used in Dallas certainly would not even come CLOSE to working.

 

The problems with cheat-by-mail are explained in the OP video. Did you watch it?

 

Secure vote by mail has advanced hugely in recent years, and Barr simply refuses to admit that - for reasons that are purely political.

He doesn't mention anything that could possibly work in the systems of OR, WA, CO, CA, and other states that have addressed security issues since the time of the systems that Barr mentions.

So, my question stands - please identify how these systems could be cheated.


Also, please note that the use of polling places includes LARGE amounts of systemic fraud that affects election outcomes today.

Vote by mail must be considered successful if it merely does a more secure and accurate job than the use of polling places. And, that is a low bar.

 

I do not understand what you are having difficulty comprehending.
It does not matter if your vote has not yet been received by mail, if you have voted on the mail in ballot and then try and vote again it is a FELONY.

 

Have a source? I’ve posted two and can post numerous more.

 

3 Weeks After Primary, N.Y. Officials Still Can’t Say Who Won Key Races

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/nyregion/election-absentee-ballots-primary.html

The absentee ballot count — greatly inflated this year after the state expanded the vote-by-mail option because of the coronavirus pandemic — has been painstakingly slow, and hard to track, with no running account of the vote totals available.​

If they can't even figure out who won in a NY primary race, how will they be able to figure out who wins in a nationwide election? "Playing with fire" is putting it lightly, this is an outright assault on the integrity of our elections.

 

They'll figure it out.

All that other stuff is fear-mongering by Trump.

B/c Trump knows he is toast.

 

They have two more months to fix it.

And, the problems they face are certainly not impossible to fix.

First of all, they didn't have near the staff that their antiquated system requires. That's certainly easy to fix!

Beyond that, why are they having human beings handle the ballots? We've had machines capableof counting ballots for YEARS. In education, machines score tests that are pretty much identical to ballots, and they have been doing that for a few DECADES.

Also, I've never seen that kind of nonsense being done with ballots cast in polling places. Do ballots from polling places get examined in the ridiculous manner they use for mailed ballots? Is each ballot held up for a group of partisan "watchers" to examine?

And, please remember that the assault by Trump is on ALL vote by mail. And, there are many states where that kind of problem is NOT happening. Here in WA, counting is all done my machine and it goes fast.

 

I am aa voter and I am not from NC,,,,i heard his message

 

why do you push this lie?

It's untrue

 

One would hope the assault is on ALL vote-by-mail states, because all it takes is one vote-by-mail state to screw it up for the entire nation.

 

LOL - like one state could screw up some other state!!!

No, the assault on representation is centered on polling places, NOT through vote by mail.

We'll have far superior representation when there are no more polling places in the USA.

The thing is, partisan public officials and others have free reign to manipulate polling place voting in ways that are systemic - subverting the will of millions of citizens while incuring no risk of prosecution. And, since their own jobs are elected positions, there is every reason for them to use the power of their offices in cooperation with those working to tilt elections.

With vote by mail, they lose that power. And, the public gets to be represented far more fairly.

 

No matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make it true.