"Ahmadinejad: Iran is determined to eradicate Zionism"

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  1. zulu1

    zulu1 Banned

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    Hmm, if that's the best you can do in your attempt to support what are in reality a set of unsubstantiated assertions and US propaganda masquerading as facts, then you ought not to be surprised that I cannot take you seriously...But thanks for the laugh.
     
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    Blah, blah, blah.. Nothing but empty rhetoric and hyperbole... I've heard this kind of tripe a million times before....The good 'ol US of A comes to the rescue to save the world from all those horrible tyrannies, is the stuff of fantasists. I recommend laying off the US war movies...It's good for your soul.
     
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    Yes, we all know about the global jewish conspiracy, and in particular their penchant for owning and controlling media.

    Yes, we all know about how the zionists are the cause of all global unrest.

    Yes, we all know how the eeevil zionists threaten everyone with nuclear annhilation even tho they refuse to acknowledge that they have them.

    Yes, we all know those who cloak their deep rooted hatred and fear of jews in anti-zionism and decry the label bigot.

    Some positions are understandable, some positions are contentious and some positions are merely the dispicable hateful rantings of puny little people.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, lets see, I beleive there are already pretty strict US/EU etc. sanctions against Iran.

    Second, Iran, unlike libya or Iraq or Afghanistan actually has an integrated air defense that includes a number of supersonic antiaircraft missile platforms, guided by some pretty sophisticated radar tracking/targeting/control systems. Any attempt to establish a no fly zone would result in the loss of American planes. However, what purpose a no fly zone in Iran would serve is not obvious.


    Oh, I guess you don't recall the riots and the brutal crushing of demonstrations throughout Iran.

    Yeah, the US certainly takes crap forever. Why just look at the crap they've taken in Iraq and Afghanistan, in Somalia, in Bosnia, in libya. I think you meant to say with that "first in line" comment, "next in line".
     
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    Its fact, despite your keen desire to absolve the IRC and Amadinajad of any involvement. We won't get into financing, training and arming Hezbollah. Nor the financial aid to Hamas (despite it being sunni). We won't even question why Iranian made ordinance keeps popping up in the hands of shia insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, nor how every once in a while an Iranian "operative" or two is killed or captured in Iraq.

    I admit his post was laughable, but your position generates hilarity.
     
  6. zulu1

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    Then I look forward to you posting reputable sources to support these "facts".
     
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    the Iranian theocratic regime has been arming various terrorist groups for years, who is surprised by the idea that Iran wants to crush any infidel state?
     
  8. zulu1

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    At least that's a demonstrable truth.
     
  9. zulu1

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    Your unsubstantiated assertion means jack (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  10. sunnyside

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    Again I'd like to see a source for something on that. I would not be surprised to find out that combat took place in schools during the Gaza war. Neither would I be surprised to find that Hamas or other militants launched a rocket from a playground and that Israeli counterbattery fire hit the school.

    But I'd be surprised if they just launched a missile and blew up a school outside of that sort of context.

    That was a time of total warfare. We had something for targeting ability. Sometimes we were going for something industrial.

    But sometimes we were trying to set up a firestorm to kill civilians by the tens of thousands.

    The Islamists are very lucky that we got together after WWII and tried to put together the conventions and the UN so that's we hopefully never have that sort of thing happen again.


    I'm more trying to gather information on your position and source on the sub-topic at the moment.
     
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    I think youll find a few examples in the invasion of Lebanon.

    As for why, does it really matter? Why try to justify it? Would you therefore accept someone trying to justify Hamas actions? Perhaps if you would you begin to see the truth. Youd be a rare example.

    Surely in our simplistic black and white world of good and evil all that matter is that Israel targets schools, Hamas only fires off rockets some of which happen to land on these. Therefore its actually Hamas which is the more moral in this case. Ill bet thats the first time you read someone dare to put that to you?


    Indeed it was a time of total warfare. What does that really mean to you? Is there something not so total about the recent gaza invasion?

    For the most part ww2 involved untargets attacks on cities, usually across swathes held to contain industrial centres. But of course, they also contained hundreds of thousands of civilians.

    Indeed the islamists are lucky. Israel is also lucky the arabs armies didnt plan to invade and wipe out israel but intended only to protect their areas excepting jerusalem. Its lucky British didnt massacre your village and prevent your family from entering Israel. Its lucky the west has been easy on it for decades despite the cost and its lucky the islamists dont want to nuke israel.
    Everybody is lucky their enemies didnt do certain things. So I hope your not gloating on israels victorious past.


    Fair enough, ask me anything you like. Youll find Im quite moderate in these matters and have around here long enough to almost everything worth knowing about the conflict. I dont go in for conspiracy thoeries however.
     
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    Nah, I watched the whole revolution against the Shah happen on TV, and that was fine with me! But what was NOT fine was when these barbaric, uncivilized hordes broke into our U. S. Embassy, with the encouragement and permission of their Islamo-terrorist government, and held our people as prisoners for 444 days!

    As crazy as these uncivilized bastards were, they knew what Ronald Reagan would do to them if they didn't let our people go, and so they released them five mnutes after Reagan took the oath of office as our President. Even back then, they knew about the "glass parking lot" option....

    Now they're going to build nuclear weapons to facilitate the arrival of the Twelfth Mahdi, blue turban and all, so that we can all die in some glorious Shiite fantasy of the End Times. :spin:

    I've already tried posting specific links to credible sources, but nobody accepts them. So we're simply going to continue ranting at each other? Not me... I'll close by saying again that I have respected and enjoyed the company of Iranian people I have known through the years, but at the first sign that Ahmadinejad is about deploy a nuclear weapon, we need to completely eliminate Iran as a threat to world stability, no matter what that may entail.

    If I were an Iranian, I'd either get busy trying to get rid of Ahmadinejad, today (it's not 2009 anymore), or, get ready to get out of the country....
     
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    I am happy for you that you have got that irrational rant of your chest.
     
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    Did you see that three rockets were launched at Kuwait to day from the area of Basra.. They think it was Iran....
     
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    No, have you got any further particulars Margot? Who think it was Iran?
     
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    The Kuwaitis......... Its over Port Mubarek al Kabir.
     
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    If Obama got US forces out of Kuwait the Iranian rockets wouldn't be a problem. Once again, this is Obama's fault.
     
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    Have you got a source for that Margot?
     
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    Is he to blame for you too?
     
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    Margot, you can't talk to people so rudely and expect them to be nice to you.
     
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    Yes Obama is the father of modern radical conservatism. Without Obama, the right was dying from Bushismo Big Govt.
     

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