Alabama attorney general says he has right to prosecute people who facilitate travel for out-of-stat

Conspiracy and aiding and abetting are crimes though. Even if you don't believe in them...

 

Likely correct. I expected the democrats on the forum to jump to the defense of this bill, given that this has been a tactic of theirs in the past....

 

I like how you seem to think this is the controversial aspect of this issue.

 

Wow so everything I told you in the other thread you suddenly agree with lol
The gas lighting is strong in this one.

 

I don't think it's time to sound the alarm as if this is being pushed by the entire Republican party, but at the same time, this kind of thing needs to be nipped in the butt quickly.

This was one of the main concerns after the repeal of Roe and we were all reassured by many right-wingers that something like this would not occur. However, to be fair, Right-wingers aren't able to predict the future any better than the rest of us, nor can they speak for every other right-winger out there.

But all the same, this is concerning. And it's good to see even some right-wing folks on this forum have a problem with it. As they should, it does not require being pro-choice to see how this is wrong.

 

No one is forcing rape victims to get pregnant which is highly preventable.
What percent of abortions are due to rape which is only thing upon which you defend and support abortion.

 

The Alabama Attorney General sounds like a prick and is overstepping his authority. Hopefully a court shuts him down quickly. This is a slippery slope that needs to be turned off.

 

Their hypocrisy once again, good catch.

 

If I, in Alabama, plan a trip to Colorado to smoke pot am I conspiring to commit a crime? Should our AG be able to charge me with a crime?

And no I did not vote for him.

 

He's a grandstander.

 

It goes further, they check social media websites and also check phone locator to see where they went.

Talk about authoritarian tactics.

 

As long as it is “legitimate rape,” right?

For reference https://www.politico.com/story/2012/08/akin-legitimate-rape-victims-dont-get-pregnant-079864

 

Planning to commit a crime is a crime in and of itself. Getting an abortion is a crime in Alabama. Even if where they had the abortion is not a crime, they still planned it in Alabama.

 

There is no such thing as a criminal "conspiracy" to commit something that is a crime in one state in another state where it isn't a crime.

 

Getting an abortion in a state where it isn't a crime is not a crime, regardless of what state you are travelling from.

 

If its for cases of rape or incest...no. Otherwise, I'm fine with it. For your Vegas example? Nope. Do you think such a law (conspiracy to commit) is OK for cases that involve murder? Say someone in Idaho plans to kill someone in Baltimore?

 

Conspiracy to commit has been around for as long as you or I have been alive, and has been cross border for the same amount of time. I'll ask you the same question I just asked another poster. If someone plans to commit murder would you be for arresting them? Say someone from Idaho plans to kill someone in Baltimore, do you want them arrested on conspiracy to commit or not?

 

But it is in Alabama.

 

They aren't planning on doing it in Alabama.

 

Murder is illegal everywhere, so it's a bad comparison. This is about state-to-state differences. So why are you okay with prosecuting for conspiracy to commit abortion but not conspiracy to gamble?

 

What’s the law against planning an abortion?

 

what? they were raped, they were forced to get pregnant, and some on the right want to force them to have their rapists baby

 

If you, in Alabama, plan to commit a murder in New York should you be arrested in Alabama for conspiracy to commit?

And vote for who? Not that it matters as this has nothing to do with voting for...whoever.

In any case, this is twice now (that I have seen in this thread) that people have compared this to something innocuous, gambling in Vegas, smoking pot.... You all are applying this from your own personal perspectives. You see having an abortion as equivalent to "smoking pot" or "gambling in Vegas". Ignoring the fact that for decades those that are anti-abortion have considered it on par with murder. So why are you all so surprised and upset that it is being considered exactly that by anti-abortionists? Its like you're incapable of viewing things from any other point of view than your own.

 

"Conspiracy to commit" applies to the breaking of any law. It is a law designed to cover all crimes and does not need a separate law for each and every criminal act possible.

 

Which is why, according to the info relayed in the OP, the person is not being charged with murder. Just the planning of a murder. Which was done in Alabama.