All young gay women, and a few gay men, thinking about 'trans' should watch this video

Show a case where a doctor castrated a child because the child claimed to be a gender opposite their sex. The claim is important. For example, the John Money case is already disqualified since the castration was due to the damage from the botched circumcision, not an expression on the child's part of their gender being opposite their sex.

 

Well then, cutting into a person to do a heart transplant surgery is doing harm, so heart transplants must be unethical.

 

Puberty blockers are castration drugs it's the same thing.

 

If there isn't anything wrong with the existing heart then yes it absolutely is unethical.

We're talking about operating on perfectly healthy people.

 

Obviously not a clue about puberty blockers.

If they were perfectly healthy then they wouldn't have GD.

 

Surgery can't fix mental disorders.

 

Uhhh...

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-i...(WHO,performed to treat psychiatric disorders.

 

Someone mentioned an open heart surgery earlier it's the same thing.

Removing defective components of the brain is different than removing of the body that aren't diseased at all.

Further treating gender disphoria never involves the brain.

I don't know it point you think you're making here.

 

You stated that surgeries can't fix mental disorders. That statement alone is false on its face as there are surgeries, specifically designed to help with certain mental disorders. And that's only if we take your statement at value and not address the problematic implication that you think that being transgender is a disorder and shouldn't be treated with transition surgeries.

 

It's the best we have so far. Your other choices are a conversion therapy that causes more damage than it fixes, or no action that leaves the person with no improvement. Right now SRS brings about the most improvement for what we currently know. Are you telling me that a 10% improvement (number for example's sake and not a claim of the real improvement) is worse than a 0% improvement or more damage done?

 

If you have a method of improving the GD of a transgender person without surgery, feel free to step up and claim your Sedgwick Medal

If there was a way to alter the mind to match the body, there would be many transgender people out there who would be glad to have that instead of surgery. But currently surgery is the only effective thing we have found.....so far.

 

Could you provide some examples other than GD where surgery is used to fix mental disorders?

I'm not sure of the statement here. Are you saying that transgender is not a disorder and poly is claiming it as one? Or something else?

 

within context of this subject I'm correct phallioplastic or mastectomy won't fix mental illness.

Within the context of the discussion it's correct.

Incorrect. Started gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. There are no transition surgeries. People cannot transition their sex.

 

There's no evidence that surgery improves it. And there is evidence that damaging the reproductive system is harmful.

Any effort to find that is considered "conversion therapy" and is not pursued.

 

Damaging someone's reproductive system is more damage done. And I doubt the 10% improvement.

 

Being transgender is no more of a disorder, from what I understand, than being cisgender. It's simply a variation of gender expression and the best way to help trans people is for them to be accepted and socially and/or medically transition.

 

If the surgery alleviates the GD, then it improves the person. Plenty of successfully transitioned people who no longer are suffering GD are the proof. It should also be noted that surgery is not always necessary to achieve that goal. GD can be alleviated by simple presenting or just a top alteration (hormones or surgery). Only a portion of transgenders require the full SRS to alleviate their GD

Well then by that logic, we should no longer allow vasectomies, tubal ligations or hysterectomies, not even in cases of cancer or endometriosis.

Sadly, so, to the detriment of the transgender community. I am pretty sure that the solution to do so will be found outside the context of transgenderism and then later applied, when it is shown not to cause additional mental harm. Part of the problem is that most of the "conversion" therapy today is devised by Christian opponents, who are seeking control, not healing, and has no actual medical or phycological basis.

 

So people who suffer from body dysmorphia should be allowed to have their arm or leg cut off to make them feel better?

 

Has amputation been shown to alleviate body dysmorphia? Also, ultimately, what someone does with their own bodies is their own choice.

 

Well that's taking "my body my choice" to it's ultimate, absurd level.

 

Is someone chopping their arm off effects you personally in some way?

 

There are a lot of things that don't effect me in a personal way that I have opinions on. So could you tell me which states it's legal to chop off body parts as a treatment for body dysmorphia?

 

there's actually no evidence that it does.

Just like so-called gender confirmation nonsense it's traded mostly by religious people not Christians but people in gender ideology religion and it has no actual medical or psychological basis you just pretend that it does.

 

First tell me if anyone is wanting to chop off limbs due to body dysmorphia. Then show me the science supporting such an operation if people are commonly chopping off limbs.

 

Wait a minute, YOU were the one arguing that it doesn't effect me personally. I never claimed that "SCIENCE™" supported it, so why should I dig that up?

The thing is, even if "SCIENCE™" did support it, I would still be opposed, even if you found that bigoted since it doesn't effect me personally.