An Update On Dianna's Health

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    An Update On Dianna's Health


    I'm sharing this because she is suffering from "Long COVID." I thought the deniers here might be interested in seeing how severe the reality of COVID can be.
     
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    Thank goodness most long covid patients aren't that bad.
     
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    Looooooong....... Covid is just a cover to hide the "detrimental and devastating" effects from the unlucky ones jabbing themselves multiple times with the megalomaniacs TOXIC "Miracle" mRNA shit!
     
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    It's curious that worldwide, the most common victims of "Long Covid" are upperclass white women.
     
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    Some people who aren't vaccinated can and do get long covid.
     
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    There's no such thing (illness) as "Long Covid"
     
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    Omg! I have long been an admirer of “Physics girl” on YouTube - the poor lass I hope she gets better!
     
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    Tell that to the people who developed it PRIOR to the vaccines!
     
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    Thanks. This lets me know how seriously to take your posts.
     
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    A poem about how easy it is to "Panic and Deceive" people.


    "All ye who got the vax, you were deceived.
    All ye who got the vax, for you I grieve.

    You’ve damaged your blood and maybe your brain.
    The killers who gave you this stuff are insane.
    You fell for their propaganda campaign,

    All ye who got the clot-shot
    who got the Covid bioweapon
    who got the genetic poison
    who got the vax.

    You were bamboozled, tricked, and duped
    or maybe you were forced to take it.
    Strokes, clots, immune system damage—
    now there’s no way to escape it.

    We tried to warn you, we of good faith.
    We used common sense, did some research.
    You responded with scorn and hate.

    Blinded by the Fear Campaign,
    false PCR tests and bogus cases,
    you obeyed the destructive lockdowns
    and wore useless masks on your faces
    (disease-causing, oxygen-blocking masks on your faces).

    And now the vaxxed are dropping like flies
    while the Pharma-owned media lies and lies.
    They tell you it must be climate change
    (another hoax of the Globalist crew)
    or maybe the illusory Monster Virus
    is laying waste to me and you.

    All ye who got the toxic jab,
    keep your children away from this crap
    and DO NOT take boosters—if you do
    you’re falling into a deadly trap.

    Here’s the lowdown, and it’s true:
    There never was a real pandemic.
    Fake statistics, Remdesivir deaths,
    and fraudulent tests were epidemic.

    The seasonal flu disappeared—
    all flu cases tagged with the “Covid” label.
    Fauci, Gates, and their Big Pharma partners
    did as much damage as they were able,
    earning billions to feather their nests
    while We The People were dispossessed,
    robbed of freedom…Debate censored…
    Science muzzled…the slaves indentured.

    All ye who got the vax,
    it’s time to face the overwhelming, irrefutable facts:
    The Covid “vaccine” is not a vaccine,
    it’s a dangerous genetic-manipulation drug
    which miserably failed all previous clinical trials
    and any employer or bureaucrat who forces this product on you
    is morally obscene.

    This “vaccine” does NOT prevent infection,
    does NOT stop transmission, does NOT provide immunity
    as even the CDC and the drug companies now admit.
    The Pharma-paid presstitute, the Pharma-owned “fact-checker”
    who pushes this product on you is a liar, a sell-out, a piece of sh*t.

    All ye who got the vax
    and those who didn’t too,
    Rise up against this sickening fraud.
    We are many. They are few.

    Rise up against the W.H.O.
    and their International Health Regulations
    which would cancel the US Constitution
    and clamp a yoke on all nations.
    Tell Trump you won’t ever vote for him
    unless he apologizes for his Warped decisions,
    admits he was wrong and makes amends.

    We need no more half-measures, no more false friends.
    Make Pfizer and Moderna pay, and Astra-Zeneca, J & J
    for their crimes against humanity.
    Put these bloodsuckers out of business.
    Together, let’s end this insanity."

    ~ By Walter Gelles
     
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    It's one thing to question the efficacy and safety of the vaccines, something we should seriously consider, and quite something else to deny covid exists.
     
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    So why didn’t physics girl get vaccinated?
     
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    What do you tell people who developed it after the vaccines?
     
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    Vaccines do not prevent a disease. The job of a vaccine is to "prime" your immune system so that if you do get infected then it will be easier for your immune system to fight it off.

    So I would tell people who got the vaccine but still got COVID, "Be thankful you had the vaccine, it could be much worse"
     
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    It all depends on the vaccine and the pathogen. Many vaccines confer sterilizing immunity which means they destroy the pathogen before it can replicate and establish an infection in the body. Initially the Covid vaccines looked like they would confer sterilizing immunity but alas not the case. The advent of delta and omicron further destroyed the chances of sterilizing immunity from these platforms

    But the statement vaccines in general do not prevent disease is patently false. Covid vaccines prevent disease in many cases, just not as many as hoped. The goal of all vaccine development is sterilizing immunity. But we don’t understand immunology well enough yet to achieve it with all vaccine platforms in all pathogens.

    Yes, I tell people the same about Covid vaccination. I’m very thankful they work as well as they do. I also wish people were informed on how to make Covid and other vaccines more effective through simple lifestyle choices. I’ve been attempting to inform people of ways to get the most out of their Covid vaccines since April of 2020, long before the vaccines were available.

    My comment you replied to was an attempt to find out why the others in this thread seemed to think physics girl wasn’t vaccinated or that she got sick before vaccines were available. It was an attempt to get people to think about what they post instead of just posting on emotion.
     
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    Sure there is. When the symptoms or aftereffects from your COVID-19 infection persist after the infection has run it's course, that is long COVID. It's a very very simple concept that even you should be able to grasp.
     
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    How would I know?
     
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    Why are you assuming she wasn’t?
     
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    Your question?
     
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    Perhaps I’ve misunderstood your original post I responded to. I took it to mean you think only unvaccinated folks get long Covid. Now I see I was likely mistaken on your position and you believe both vaccinated and unvaccinated get long Covid.

    My apologies and correct me if the above is still a misunderstanding.
     
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    No. There is evidence vaccination cuts the incidence, severity and duration of long covid.
    Just a thought on long covid... one would have to be woefully uninformed to not know long covid happens to both vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
     
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    Of course.


    Agreed.

    We’ve known this stuff for some time. A post of mine from Oct. 2021.

    “I think if keeping people safe from long Covid and the sequelae we are discussing here is the goal we should also tell people vaccination only cuts the risk of long Covid in half for those with breakthrough infection. And breakthrough infections are becoming more common. If we want to avoid the risk of temporary or permanent damage from Covid, behaviors beyond a couple trips to the pharmacy matter.”

    A third booster has cut that risk some more, but two doses at that time cut risk about half.
     
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    Many of my friends who have had Omicron have had five vaccinations. No one has been very ill.
     
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    Long Covid is just sequelae resulting from the past viral infection. It’s an odd term to many because even though the sequelae are similar to those observed after influenza infection we never talk about “long Flu”.

    Some examples of sequelae shared by both influenza and Covid. Not a comprehensive list:

    1) Both Covid and influenza induce thrombosis (venous and arterial).

    2) Both induce plaque rupture and subsequent cardiovascular events (MI and stroke).

    3) Both can cause alopecia

    4) Both are associated with “brainfog”.

    5) Compromised gas exchange in alveoli is observed after recovery from both.

    6) Both induce asymptomatic and fulminate myocarditis.

    7) Both are associated with artery dissection in individuals with no previous risk factors.

    8 ) Both are known to induce diabetes

    Of course the physiological pathways vary as the two viruses are different. But the sequelae of the two are eerily similar. Unfortunately, people are led to believe SARS-CoV-2 is frightening or novel based on these sequelae. People should be told such sequelae are NORMAL after viral infections. To be clear, these sequelae are serious business and should be avoided using all available mitigations. But spooking people by pretending this is unique to SARS-CoV-2 is unnecessary misinformation. I see no reason to pretend this is new or novel information in the context of Covid. For people educated in virology this was expected.

    As we progress to milder variants and the population is exposed to SARS-CoV-2 at younger ages on average the rates of “long Covid” will continue to fall to be more comparable to the rates for influenza. SARS-CoV-2 was a “novel” virus to the human population immune system so higher rates of more severe sequelae are expected. We see higher rates of more severe sequelae with novel influenza viruses or ones that haven’t been prominent recently. For example the rates of cardiovascular sequelae increased substantially after the last H1N1 pandemic.

    Anyway, that’s the long way of saying “long Covid” sounds like an odd term to people knowledgeable of virology because a term was invented for one disease we’ve never applied to similar disease sequelae in the past.
     
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    That was an informative post, thank you for that.

    My guess as to why there is a term for "long COVID" and not other diseases that can cause similar lasting effects is the level of attention and politicization that has occurred with COVID. Other than AIDS and maybe mental health issues as a whole in recent years, I can't think of any other disease that has occupied the public sphere to the extent that COVID has. There's simply more attention and because of that, more reporting. And the media has to name everything so they can cram it in a headline.
     
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