An Update On Dianna's Health

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if she had the Vax before or after she got long covid.
     
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    I wonder if she even had Covid.

    That's the problem with a lot of these long Covid studies. They don't confirm that the patients had Covid in the first place.
     
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    What is "long covid"?
     
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    What is "long covid"?
     
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    Would you also tell people to "be thankful for the street lamps that are keeping the elephant stampedes away"?
     
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    No, because there were no elephant stampedes BEFORE the streetlights.

    Before the vaccine the death rate from COVID was MUCH higher.
     
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    Great. Let's hear you define this "long covid" term then...

    Here, you are describing a COVID-19 infection. IOW, a person who is sick with COVID.

    Here, you are describing a person who is no longer sick with COVID. This person might still experience some lingering symptoms for a bit as his/her body continues to recover from the illness, but that's normal recovery and not a whole new illness (what you're trying to call "long covid").

    No. That is COVID ("the flu?").

    If symptoms persist longer than a normal recovery from illness takes (maybe a week or so after 'recovering from COVID'), then what you describe might be a person who hasn't actually recovered from COVID at all and is still sick. OR maybe you are describing a person who has recovered from COVID ("the flu"?) but is now ailed by something else (mRNA jab side effects? Paxlovid side effects?).

    I've now experienced multiple people (one who is a family member of mine) who, in quick succession, "got covid", got prescribed and took a regimen of paxlovid, and got lung damage to where they are now on supplemental oxygen.
     
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    How do you know?

    COVID does not kill. Even using government BS numbers, there were no "much higher" death rates "before the non-vaccine".
     
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    This from Chat GPT:

    "Long COVID," also known as "Post-Acute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection" (PASC), is a condition where people experience ongoing symptoms after recovering from COVID-19. These symptoms can last for weeks or months and can range from mild to severe.

    Some of the common symptoms of long COVID include fatigue, shortness of breath, cough, joint pain, muscle aches, headaches, loss of smell or taste, and difficulty concentrating or "brain fog." Other less common symptoms include heart palpitations, chest pain, digestive issues, and skin rashes.

    Long COVID can affect people of any age, regardless of how severe their initial COVID-19 infection was. It is not yet clear why some people develop long COVID and others do not, but researchers are working to understand the condition better and find effective treatments. If you are experiencing ongoing symptoms after recovering from COVID-19, you should speak to your healthcare provider for guidance on how to manage your symptoms and receive appropriate care."

    Long covid was around long before the vaccines.
     
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    If you would like to know more about Paxlovid: https://www.drugs.com/sfx/paxlovid-side-effects.html

    Maybe covid caused the lung damage, not Paxlovid.
     
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    Depends upon what you think is a "much higher" death rate.

    "Does covid kill?" This from ChatGPT:

    "Yes, COVID-19 can be a serious and sometimes fatal illness. While many people who contract COVID-19 experience mild to moderate symptoms and recover without needing special treatment, the disease can cause severe respiratory illness, pneumonia, and even death, especially in people who are older or have underlying health conditions.

    According to data from the World Health Organization (WHO), as of March 2023, there have been more than 450 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 and over 6 million deaths reported globally. However, it is important to note that the actual number of cases and deaths is likely higher, as not all cases are diagnosed or reported."

    Why are you claiming covid doesn't kill?
     
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    You could have saved a bunch of time and just said you don't understand. What I wrote was very straight-forward and clear which is made even more obvious by your fumbling attempts to spin it into the alternate reality all of your posts come from.
     
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    Chat GPT is not a valid source of anything. You cannot use it as a source with me.


    If one still has symptoms, then one either hasn't recovered from COVID or one is sick from something other than COVID.

    There is no such thing. You can't even define it.
     
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    I do not accept webmd as a valid source. You cannot use it with me.

    A "study" based on "computer models" is just a bunch of hocus pocus. There is no such thing as a COVID death, as COVID does not kill. People who are "dying from COVID" are actually dying from other causes, most commonly from pneumonia.
     
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    Have a nice life.
     
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    They were all perfectly fine until shortly after their Paxlovid regimens. I've never seen anyone "get covid", recover from it, and then shortly thereafter need supplemental oxygen. I've only seen that happen in people who were given a regimen of Paxlovid.
     
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    Chat GPT is not a valid source of anything. COVID doesn't kill because there is no causal chain of events from COVID infection to death. It is usually pneumonia that kills people who are claimed to have "died from COVID".
     
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    You could have saved a bunch of time and just said that you have no valid arguments to make.
     
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    So you have no valid arguments to make? Got it.
     
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    I was taking your question at face value. I wouldn't bother trying to explain "long covid" to anyone who at this point doesn't know what it is. I don't use it as a source.

    The rest of your post makes no sense.
     
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    Again, I wouldn't bother explaining how long covid kills to someone who doesn't know how it kills at this point. If you don't like the explanation, so be it.

    ChatGPT provided a reasonable summary of what I learned. No, I don't use it to support my arguments. I've caught it is several mistakes.
     
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    Whatever. :roll: :roll:
     
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    IOW, you don't have any valid argument to make. Got it.

    You didn't learn anything. You went to Chat GPT, it spit out a response of what you wanted to hear that "sounded smart", and you appealed to it as an authoritative source. I don't accept Chat GPT as a valid source of anything. It is an AI system that is only as good as its programming. It cannot be used in place of valid sources.

    Now you are denying your prior posts in which you used it to support your arguments.

    You haven't caught anything. See above for what you've done.
     
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