And the 47th president of the United states is...

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  1. popscott

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    I honestly believe Senile Joe did it on purpose. He hates Kamala and is doing everything in his power to to ensure she fails. These people are all sharks and their tuna is power.
     
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    When Trump wins, are you going to denounce the Nationwide violence we will see coming from the violent progressives?

    " Progressives " ...... So very ironically named
     
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    I will denounce any violence by the Left if Trump wins. Will you denounce claims of a "stolen election" if Harris wins?
     
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    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I’ve been saying this for a while
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    We don't have to denounce claims of a "stolen election" if Harris wins?... It is our right, and we have that right to contest any and all election.... and there is nothing you can do about it...
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They absolutely won't. Every single Trump supporter on this board will claim the election was stolen if he loses. They will indulge the wildest conspiracy theories. And, much like Trump himself, many will claim it was rigged and almost stolen even if he wins.
     
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    I can sit back and laugh at you acting like a lemming. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    For the record, I never said you didn't have the right to make false claims about a stolen election.
     
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    So you believe that climate change is going to rule the day?

    If that were the case, why do you suppose that neither candidate (especially Harris) is putting it front and center in their campaign? Do you believe you know the political landscape better than the campaigns? Better than the polling organizations?

    Sincerely, on what are you basing this conclusion?
     
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    My prediction. It will be too close to call. For about a week accusations will fly, the SC will be invoked to settle it.

    But by about day 8, both Trump and Kamala will realize the country is more important than winning or losing and they will bury the hatchet, form a coalition government designed to serve the American people, and govern together in harmony. Hey, it could happen. :)

    Really I have no idea. You could be right. Rally popularity didn’t work out in 2020 though.
     
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    Rightists along with their mango messiah are already blaming fraud, and the elections haven't even took place yet. Lol Team trump, who i believe knows he's cooked, are already ramping up the fraud conspiracies early and are talking about them non stop on social media platforms. Lol
     
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    I believe that Trump will be the 47th President. Therefore, I advise all Americans who do not want him to be President to go out and vote.
     
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    If she is to win, I don't see it being a dominating win. I think this is way too close to call. When Biden was in the race I was saying Trump was going to easily win. Not that Harris is a better candidate than Biden, but she at least seems to have energized the Dem base. Put a gun to my head to make a call...I think Trump wins.
     
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    There have been a lot of stories from multiple reporting outlets about how climate concerns are motivating people to vote for the first time. Like I said, it's a larger issue for younger voters than other demographics. Also, the data indicating such is fairly recent. That's why I think Harris's campaign didn't focus as much on it. Also, some of the swing states are generally hostile to "green" rhetoric.
     
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    Lot of stories? I would say that is a highly subjective declaration. Some stories for sure,

    Do you believe the campaigns missed this trend but you caught it? Do you believe the polling organizations missed this trend but you caught it?

    My money says that it is YOU that is motivated by climate change, and you are projecting those feelings onto everyone else. While there are undoubtedly many people for whom climate change is their big issue, comparatively, it ranks near the bottom of the list of important issues whenever this has been polled which is countless times during this election year. There is no way this is secretly the defining issue for the electorate in this election and neither campaign knows it.
     
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    Yeah, I admit I'm making a pretty wild prediction saying "dominant win." Just to be specific, by dominant win I mean:
    • >10 million popular vote victory
    • +90 electoral vote victory
    Also, the estimates are that 35k votes in swing states could have changed the election result in 2020. I think that estimate will be 100k+ this year, if anyone talks about it at all.
     
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    Go ahead.... no one cares what you do...

    Please explain "Will you denounce claims of a "stolen election" if Harris wins?"
     
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    What is so hard to understand?
     
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    While I think climate change is important, it wasn't even on my radar this election until I started seeing those stories. I gave my reasons for why Harris isn't focusing on it. I think they know, but are focusing elsewhere, especially because they don't have to win climate voters. Anyone voting on climate is either voting Dem or third party.
     
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    ....and your assumption is predicated on all the polling organizations being incorrect when their polls all show climate change at the bottom or next to the bottom virtually every time it has been polled.

    Your assumption is also based on the notion that the Harris campaign, knowing full well that they have the edge for those worried about climate change have opted to not focus on this issue, presumably thinking they have those voters in the bag. I guess one could make the same assumption for pro choice people, knowing full well Harris has them in the bag, yet she talks about this issue nonstop? Why does she do this? In order to maximize turnout amongst those voters and to make it even more important in the minds of the electorate. If Harris is in on this secret about climate change being the real driver in this election with you and not the rest of the world, then her choice not to try and maximize this issue would be a strange one indeed.
     
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    It will be close. Doing what I can on my part. **** the fascist felon.
     
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    What I said is still consistent with that. Climate can still drive young, first time voters to the polls while still being a low priority concern for voters in general.

    There are a lot of pro-choice voters who are also conservative. Abortion rights are extremely popular across the political spectrum. It's largely evangelicals and Catholics that are pro-life. Focusing on abortion, which is likely to win you votes while only alienating people who wouldn't vote for you ever, is a better strategy than focusing on climate change, which can deter voters in Pennsylvania.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok. You vs the courts.

    Each to their own. Some people declare their own country.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Radical opinion!!
     
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    We don't answer to you.... is that hard to understand?
     

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