And Yet People Defend Hamas

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    This you wrote an mistakenly attributed to the author, Steve Hartley...
    Why did you stuff the above into your quote from his blog piece?
    This is what Roger Ebert had to say about Rupert Murdock taking over the Sun-Times:

    "On the first day of Murdoch's ownership, he walked into the newsroom and we all gathered around and he recited the usual blather and rolled up his shirtsleeves and started to lay out a new front page. Well, he was a real newspaperman, give him that. He threw out every meticulous detail of the beautiful design, ordered up big, garish headlines, and gave big play to a story about a North Shore rabbi accused of holding a sex slave. The story turned out to be fatally flawed, but so what? It sold papers. Well, actually, it didn't sell papers. There were hundreds of cancellations. Soon our precious page 3 was defaced by a daily Wingo girl, a pinup in a bikini promoting a cash giveaway. The Sun-Times, which had been placing above the Tribune in lists of the 10 best U.S. newspapers, never took that great step it was poised for."

    ... Ebert, Roger (July 12, 2011). "The Dirty Digger". Chicago Sun-Times. Roger Ebert's Journal. Archived from the original on October 16, 2011. Retrieved October 13, 2011.​

    Hartley's hack blog piece fits right in with the other extreme rightwing trash you post.
    You need to get off the body counts. Hamas and Palestinian supporters can already point to far more bodies than Israel has. Israel has to deal with Hamas and they won't have the understanding and support they need unless the debate and analysis gets beyond body counts and ranting.
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    You think these folks listen to college profs? :lol: :lol:
     
  3. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Hitler exterminated a lot of white people in addition to European Jews. @Esau might take comfort in knowing Hitler would have murdered more blacks than he managed if they had been living nearby. :roll:
     
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    if there were 100,000 blacks in Germany during WW2, Hitler would have exterminated 100,000 black people.
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    Yes, blacks weren't as handy as Jews, Slavs, Roma, etc.
     
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    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Can the rhetoric get any more extreme:
     
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    Meet the Most Pro-Hamas Minneapolis School Teacher

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    I'll take teachers peddling porn on Fans Only over these Hamas whack jobs.

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    https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/teacher-megan-gaither-put-on-leave-after-caught-on-onlyfans/

    'Meredith Aby-Keirstead, and the chilling part of this example is that she’s a high school social studies teacher who lives in a suburb of Minneapolis.'

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    Pro-Genocide Public School Teacher.

    'A Minneapolis public school teacher called for the eradication of the Jewish state during an event commemorating “past socialist revolutions,” stating that she does not support a “complete ceasefire” in Israel because she “only wants one side to stop fighting.”

    'Aby-Keirstead praised the “wins of Palestinian freedom fighters” and advocate for terrorism against Israelis.'

    'She followed that up with the standard “from the river to the sea” chant that Hamas always invokes, urging the complete destruction of the Israeli state and the Jewish people.'

    'This person goes into a public school every day and has the opportunity to influence and warp young minds. One can only imagine what version of “social studies” she is preaching to those children.'
     
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  8. Sandy Shanks

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    The naïveté of some Americans is breathtaking, that includes 18 members of Congress!

    They seem unaware that Hamas terrorists hide amongst the civilian population. For the second day in a row, Israel was forced to bomb a refugee camp in Gaza because the headquarters of the Hamas terrorist group was hiding there.

    Palestinians chose Hamas to govern them. In addition, at any time Palestinians living in Gaza could leave and live under the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank, roughly a hundred miles away. Palestinians trapped in Gaza now chose Hamas.

    On Oct. 7, Hamas went on a murder raid, murdering over 1400 Israelis as well as others. The war between Israel and Hamas began. Young, amateurish progressives want the U.S.to declare a ceasefire between these two foreign adversaries. They can't explain how the Biden administration is supposed to do that.

    NPR reports, "The progressive Jewish group If Not Now went to Capitol Hill last week to talk to lawmakers and hold a rally.

    "While the group sang a call-and-response of "cease-fire now" and "not in our name" next to the Reflecting Pool, Matan Arad-Neeman, the group's spokesman, explained why they were there.

    "We've only seen — what is it — 17 members of Congress so far call for a cease-fire. And I'm so grateful for their moral courage," he said. "But the rest of Congress needs to step up and end this bloodshed."

    "As of today, 18 House members have signed on to a resolution calling for a cease-fire in the war between Israel and Hamas.

    "In March, Gallup found that for the first time in more than two decades of tracking, Democrats sympathized with Palestinians more than Israelis. About half of Democrats said their sympathies are more with Palestinians, compared to about 4 in 10 who said their sympathies are more with the Israelis. That divide is decades in the making."

    On Oct. 7, Palestinians murdered over 1,400 people and started a war that will desecrate their homeland. Over 8,800 Palestinians have been killed.

    The young progressives support a group bent on murder and suicide.
     
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    omgWhen you list the number of Palestinians killed do you
    differentiate between civilians and combatants. One would be tragic but the other is a success story.
     
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    'A Palestinian professor who only a month ago presented at the University of Pennsylvania’s Palestine Writes Festival has provided an interesting take on the Hamas atrocities in Israel.'

    'Responding to the revelation that Hamas barbarians put a baby in an oven before raping its mother to death, he asks an incisive question:'

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    'He’s making fun of a baby murdered in an oven by Hamas terrorists, as the baby’s mother was being raped.'

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    'He is a respected “scholar.” Penn invited him here to speak. The New York Times had him write a guest essay.'

    'What is striking about Refaat Alareer, though, is not his casual brutality, but rather the respect with which he is treated in the very best circles, such as the University of Pennsylvania, who funded his participation in the Palestine Writes Festival. And not just Penn, but all the foundations that kicked in to sponsor these monsters.'

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    'These institutions feel caught in a vice right now, as ordinary Americans and, more importantly, large donors are waking up to their utter corruption, while their core constituency on campus is wholly committed to the destruction of all that is right and good in the world.'

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023...in-oven-with-or-without-baking-powder-n588814
     
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    I don't think they'll listen:
     
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    I wasn't clear if this is a straight journalist or an opinion writer:
     
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    How embarrassing will this be for the administration:
     
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    You probably didn't know that:
     
  16. Zorro

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    The anti-Semites on campus and within the Left

    'The rhetoric is all utopian, but the motivation is all hate. Genocide is totally on-brand for the adherents of this ideology.'

    See 'the radicalism of the City University of New York, in which a professor openly discusses the terrorism of 10/7 as “just resistance” to Israel’s violence.'

    'CUNY's Corinna Mullin says Palestinian armed resistance is Just and Protected under International Law. She says that Hamas' attack on October 7th was a "dramatic scene". She avoids saying Hamas, it was just "Palestinians".'

    Why has Congress directed taxpayer funding to spread this hatred?

    'She is also a professor or lecturer at two other institutions in New York, and got her degree at the London School of Economics. You can go to that thread and there is a long line of academics from CUNY discussing why the West needs to be destroyed, and why terrorism is justified.'

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/11/05/no-they-arent-peace-activists-they-are-antisemites-n590017

    'This is the City University of New York. New York City is, by population, the largest concentration of Jews in any city in the world. Larger than Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, or anywhere on Earth. And at its heart, funded by the city, is a university rife with open antisemites. These are views widely held in academia, and the ideology has taken over the education of students.'
     
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    I'm not optimistic they'll change their minds:
     
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    Why doesn't the Left understand this:
     
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    Will there be any consequences for the demonstrators:
     
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    I do not know of ANYONE in America who defends Hamas.

    President Abbas of Palestine doesn't defend Hamas.

    Biden wants a cease fire for humanitarian reasons. HE doesn't support Hamas - he's backed Israel to a level that is politically risky.

    Who in America do YOU think supports Hamas???
     
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    He said:
    I don't know how much more stupid that could possibly be.

    The problem with Israel running Gaza as an open air prison of desperately poor and hungry people for more than 20 years is the antithesis of everything western ideals could possibly be considered to stand for.

    He actually SAID that people are better off as if that applied to Gaza!!!

    The level of ignorance in that is simply astounding.

    I'm sure he meant that our ideals are just great.

    BUT, WE have REPEATEDLY used our weight and vetoes in the UN and with our military and political aid to Israel to ensure the total destitution in which Palestinians live in Gaza.

    There is NO western principle of our founding fathers or after that can justify that as an objective of the USA.
     
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    Arab Nations Are Privately Telling Israel To Destroy Hamas.

    Which makes sense. Hamas are subhuman killers

    'Israel’s Arab neighbors don’t want Palestinian refugees roaming wild in their country: they bring trouble. The late King Hussein had to declare war on them and successfully drove them out. The problem is the Palestinian Liberation Organization set up shop in Lebanon, where they caused problems for the government while also attacking Israel from the southern part of the country. Israel had to invade in 1982 and remained in Southern Lebanon until 2000. Egypt has closed its border with the Gaza Strip in Rafah due to terrorism concerns.'

    'In the days after the brutal October 7 attacks executed by Hamas, Egypt knew what was going to happen. They deployed tanks to the border while their prime minister vowed that his country would sacrifice millions to keep their borders safe. He was not referring to Israel. Haaretz is reporting that Israel’s Arab neighbors are telling Jerusalem privately that they shouldn’t stop military operations until Hamas has been annihilated. They view them as a domestic threat.'

    They are. They are a threat to humanity.
     
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    Is the UN Culpable in Hamas Terrorist Attacks on Israel?

    'After yet another discovery of Hamas missiles stashed under United Nations property, and years of such discoveries as the UN pushes terrorist propaganda against Israel, we have to ask whether the UN has blood on its hands amid the devastating and ongoing Hamas war on Israel.'

    The UN is a hate-filled anti-Semitic organization.

    'Hamas has stored weapons in UN schools for years. The UN itself even confessed that fact back in 2015. At a certain point, after years of such incidents and the UN’s full knowledge of how Hamas uses civilian buildings as shields, we have to ask how culpable the UN is. And the UN continues to push Hamas propaganda, even as Hamas uses UN property to hide their weapons for killing Israelis. I would say the anti-Semitic UN is disgustingly complicit in the murder of Israelis.'

    They are complicit.
     
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    Was Woke always harboring anti-semitism?

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