And Yet People Defend Hamas

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  1. AKS

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    Yes, they are both disgusting. But one is not like the other. I know for a fact we do everything we can to minimize collateral damage. Hamas did everything possible to maximize it. There is a distinction and it's not subtle.
     
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    The solution to that was rather simple, STOP F*CKING LOBBING ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL!!!
     
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    They elected hamas. Hamas is repressing them. They should take it up with Hamas, not with the Israelis. When they take it up with the Israeli's and commit heinous crimes, people are going to authorize glassing the shitty little hive they live in.
    https://twitter.com/alicia_smith19/...D5hZiYYROa0S3y0zwwIUTAvEW_IGrOIEv3OEZTJE4M2iw

    See exhibit A
     
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    Hamas is killing children. Do you care about them?

    You say you don’t want the Nazis to rise again. Have you considered that the people you defend are Muslim Nazis?
     
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    If Israel actually didn’t recognize Palestinians right to exist they wouldn’t exist. Why? Because they have the might and ability to wipe them out anytime they chose to. That’s the difference. First world people who want peace vs 3rd world animals living in the wrong century. Hamas would wipe Israel off the map if they were able. They just can’t. The most they can do is what happened this weekend.
     
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    Oh yeah, carpet bombing Vietnam with the 864,000 tons of bombs dropped indiscriminately in Operation Rolling Thunder was totally minimizing it. Uh huh.

    You know what would have stopped the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by our invading Iraq? Not invading it. It's no ****ing different. It's just a way for you to feel better about the misery we caused in a faraway land. It doesn't affect you personally every day of your life, so you feel good about calling them animals and sub human. Sorry, that doesn't work for me. Killing is killing.
     
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    Is an inhumane and punishing blockade the best reaction to an election result you don't like?

    The blockade on Gaza has led to the deaths of many innocent people and cause unemployment, poverty, malnutrition to skyrocket . All in order to convince the Arabs to reject Hamas.

    Instead it has caused the people of Gaza to become more extreme and hate Israelis even more. Good work. Great job. Mission accomplished.
     
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    There were wars happening back then, there was no war in Israel until Hamas started one.
     
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    There are no doctors or medicine in Gaza?
     
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    There is a difference. Targeting children vs targeting a military objective. Raping women and beheading babies vs not doing that. I don't give a rats ass what works for you. You are wrong.
     
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    Just because a war is not officially acknowledged does not mean one is not happening.
     
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    So what you’re saying is Gaza can’t sustain itself on its own. They should have thought about that a long time ago and Hamas certainly didn’t consider the consequences the people in Gaza would experience.
     
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    So you don't think we knew there were children in the villages we leveled? You think because we can't see them that it somehow gives us the moral high ground? If anything that is even WORSE. It makes it easy to do it again and again and again because we don't have to live with the nightmares our actions caused to those afflicted. They are no different, except in our minds.
     
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    There is no Palestinian state. Israelis don't recognize the right for it to exist.
     
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    Since it came with a side of literal terrorist group in charge of a government that admitted it would lob rockets at you and murder you?
    Yeah, that's a pretty minimal approach, you're right. They should've just glassed the ****ing place and had done.
     
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    There are lots of differences. I guess you'll just have to trust me until you can think like an adult. Someday, it will be starkly apparent to you too.
     
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    I think it entirely relevant to your point and I don't think you'd have to look were there any it would be that prominent and unusual event.


    The vacuum of American leadership was filled by Iran and a re-emergent Taliban. Just as China continues to do so in the Pacific.

    Do you believe if we simply stop opposing the radical Islamic Jihadis the killing and bloodshed will end?
     
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    I've been in the aftermath of combat enough to know that there are no differences, just lies and illusions to make killing easier to stomach.
     
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    I’m saying you’re lost. What you are I haven’t any clue. Do you?
     
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    And again, for possible comprehension, in neither of those instances did we come anywhere near the barbarity, lawlessness and viciousness shown by Hamas.
     
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    And yet, will still be orders of magnitude more humane that what Hamas unleashed on Israel.
     
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    Immaterial to the issue at hand.
     
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    Tough that the Hamas sub-humans. By orders of magnitude.
     
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    I thought this was a thread about Hamas and Isreal? Maybe crank up the WAY BACK MACHINE and return to 2023...
     
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    Not at all, Dude. You said "Vietnam was fifty years ago. Iran nearly 75 years ago. We're talking about stuff that happened four DAYS AGO.” So you made it about a difference, … a change in the US. hello?
     
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