Anti-Gun People: What is the proper course of action if you are attacked?

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Mate it CAN be done - as I said I am a nurse and in our state we cannot restrain patients without VERY good reason so, ever tried stopping a 150 KG man who is withdrawing from Alcohol from hurting either himself or you?? Your mistake is in thinking that unarmed = helpless

And yes that response was in the right thread - I want to start some thinking beyond victim automatically equals "deserving thug criminal"

 

I noticyou didn't really answer the question in your disjointed 'gun nut' rant...

 

Given the answers I keep getting about "shooting your own food" that may not be such a mad conclusion

 

Evasion noted: My wife's best friend is 4'5" and 85lbs. Explain, in detail, EXACTLY how she should protect herself from a 6', 200lb attacker. Be specific.

 

threaten to call the police, and use pepper spray.

If that does not work, turn the other cheek like good moral Christians are summoned to do from the bible.

 

So you're 4'5" and 85 lbs. and single-handedly, with just your bare hands, restrained a 150kg man intent on harming you? Do tell.

 

For Bower: Tina is 135cm and ~40kg.

 

At least you'd fight back.

Brainwashed how? How is someone a threat if they have no gun? Apparently you're not even threatened by them considering what you just said above. And I was a bouncer for years, so do I even need to go into that?

 

Fine but, we are talking about an ARMED 150 KG man. Unarmed, you wouldn't have much of a chance if he decides to 'bust a cap' on you.

HUH? What does that even mean?

 

WTF? What does this have to so with anything? Is this pregnant 15 year old girl the one attacking me? Did she invade my house to steal my second hand CD? If so, I think I could handle it without a gun. If not, then what the hell are you even talking about?

 

I was wondering the same thing.

 

I'm always honest. I also try to think clearly. Given the questions posed and assuming that the objective is to stay alive rather than get oneself killed then it seemed to me that those were the best courses of action.

 

Met Police London -

 

Yep! Can be done - did Judo and I can tell you IT CAN BE DONE!!!

Again stop equating unarmed with helpless



This is just ONE hold and I will tell you that it does not take much force for the person to feel like their arm is about to break - you can dislocate arms quite easily with holds like this

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Could you? Would you? It is night and you just heard a noise downstairs you see a figure and fire

All over red rover

 

Somehow you Yanks have it ingrained into your culture that all burglars are 150 kilo men (and I am guessing black men) out to rape women

 

This might be a bit of a horror story for Americans so you've been warned.

I worked for two years in an outback opal mining town that was a pretty wild place back in the early 1970s. All of us were routinely unarmed, although arms were permitted to be worn concealed by uniformed police (that changed in 1978 with the issue of an S&W .357 revolver, try sticking that in your pocket and you'll get some odd looks). There were quite a number of illegal firearms owned by some of the miners in town but they daren't use them, especially on coppers. There were a couple of times when we had to get tooled up for a job but they were very few. The violence in town was hand to hand combat between us and the local indigenous population (always when drunk, never when sober) and some of the miners (drunk or sober didn't matter, if they got cranky then they'd go off).

The point is that firearms weren't necessary for police work on a routine basis in that town in those days.

Context is everything.

 

Stop putting words in my mouth! I did nothing of the sort! Claiming I did means you are LYING!

Not when you are spotting your opponent two feet and close to two hundred pounds! Someone her size simply has no chance in a fight and anyone HONEST would acknowledge that! She does not have the strength, reach, or size required. I'm not a particularly big guy...I have 17" (50cm) and 150lbs (~65-70kg) on her.

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YOU brought up the 150kg man, sweetie!

 

Ahh, yes, judo...I've seen full grown men who "knew" judo or some other martial art get their asses handed to them in the most ridiculous ways. I guess it was a good thing that this 6' brute that you took down didn't also know judo, eh? Also, a good thing that he wasn't armed, wouldn't you say? The chances of a 4'5" woman getting a 6' man into an arm bar is very slim, especially since they have to get the palooka on the ground first. How is this even debatable? When one person is much larger and stronger (as in 4-1/2' vs 6') than the other, they nearly always have the advantage.

 

agreed violence wouldn't solve it, some criminals are skilled Mixed Martial art fighters.

Guns won't solve it either, because criminals can have bigger guns and the element of surprise.

It's best to submit to the attack , and allow the attacker to take what he wants. There's really no way to defend against an attack if no one sees it coming.

Most of the time attacks aren't black or white, where a gun or any violence will provide sufficient self-defense as those kind of attacks are a small minority generally speaking. Criminals have the upper hand because of the law of first strike, and a pre-emptive counter attack won't work because look at what happened in Iraq.

 

This is for me, just snipped some of the quote to save space.

No, that'[s not a solution, it's a tactic. My tactic is to appease the criminal and give them whatever they want without resistance. My objective is to stay alive. See the difference? Remember I'm unarmed.

 

If they want one of your children, would you give them that, too?

It would be funny if it wasn't pathetic.

 

You can only hope they have a pair of scissors.

 

Solution/tactic. Same thing. This is about what I was expecting from most people here, though. Basically just roll over and surrender. Which is pretty much all you're left with when your guns get legally taken away. I never want to live in a place like that.

Jarlaxle also makes a really good point. What if they want your kids?

 

As a rule,rapists don't pick anyone bigger than them

 

Come on now Bowerbird....That 330 LB "Bruiser" was YOUR conjuring....You wrote:

I was using YOUR example...