Antifa Is Arming Itself Against a Trump Crackdown

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  1. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    He was clobbered in the head by a woman.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should ask one of the doctors down there to help with that.
     
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    Except open carry of a rifle is the core of the right.
    The NRA has long outlived its usefulness.
     
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    jeezz...are we gonna go through this again. .22 caliber is the weapons of choice when it comes to self defense by the general population. It does the job just as well on any @$$e$ that break in a house with an owner that owns one, and who is well trained.
     
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    Well since carry is a constitutional allowance it is up to the state to allow concealed or not. If not allowing concealed then open carry is the only other choice. Of course CA limits that with 'May Issue' rules which basically only allows the powerful to carry and leaves the peons without protection in the large cities. I believe rural areas in CA are more 'shall carry' which just means if you don't have a record or are not an habitual drunk you can carry.

    Brandishing has nothing to do with open carry. Brandishing would be if you were open carrying and pulled your weapon (brandishing) to threaten someone.

    The reason Bill Ruger drafted a compromise bill was because it excluded Ruger products like the Range Rifle that shot the same round as the AR-15 and accepted a 30 round magazine like the AR-15. Call that a compromise if you want.

    The NRA promotes carry. Here in Indiana there is no law against open carry so one can if they want. Most don't want to advertise so conceal.
     
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    You mean like in Portland where the police stand down when they create havoc?
     
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    A "study" in which the "study" isn't shown = fake news.
     
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    You are so funny, and I mean down right rolling on the ground funny.

    These losers that you are condemning
    are actually right wing militia members.

    The really funny part is that the latest round of right wing rallies in Portland, was in defense of men accused of sexual misconduct. That is who the Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys are, men who women shun.

    See the big tough guys above, they can't pick up women and they can't beat them up either.

    If this was a picture of the Antifa, half would be women.
     
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    LOL, sure they are. What planet do you live on? If they were unmasked their mothers would kick them out of their basements. Most are under 20 so have never served anywhere except Starbucks.
     
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    I would consider them more along the lines of a criminal gang. But unlike criminal gangs they don't identify themselves.

    I don't don't they think they need protection they're utterly terrified of things like the proud boys. a few videos come out where a guy takes a few swings at a few antifa types and it makes sense that they're scared looking at these guys they're not very powerful if they're even guys I'm not sure, they might be ladies.

    But I remember hearing from proud boys who were at the event and they had this line of scrimmage and an antifa kid actually got shoved into the proud boys side where we surrounded by proud boys, at the probably guys that were there we're talking about how scared he was when he was shaking he was terrified he thought they were going to rip him apart, I wonder why they're that scared. The guys from the proud boys group we're actually trying to come this fellow down he's not going to get to her he's going to get to go back with his antifa people.

    So it makes me wonder are these people propagandized do they really believe cowboy in Patriot prayer are full of klu Klux Klan members? I guess they are.

    I think the best kind of counter-protest you could bring to antifa is to just show them kindness nothing undoes propaganda like the truth. Nobody wants to kill you nobody wants to hurt you we just want you to stop breaking other people's things that's it. We don't even want to change your mind you have the right to think that communism is the way.
     
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    ANTIFA using firearms in Portland would solve 2 problems ... ANTIFA and the former policemen. :;):
     
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    so there are militia? Like ORSDF? That's not right wing that's funded by the state. From the Wikipedia article it seems they aren't active after 2015, but it's meant to augment national guard.

    this isn't right wing anymore than the military is right wing.

    wait a minute you think a man should automatically be considered guilty if a woman accuses him of anything? No trial no due process just guilty? So this is a rally supporting the 6th and 7th Amendment? And you're against that?

    The more I hear you talk the more you sound like the person who's actually fascist here. Deny men due process because they're men? Isn't that like denying Jews due process because they're Jews?
     
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    In the latest melee in Portland, the Proud Boys were part of a rally supporting men accused of sexual assault.
     
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    You watch too many movies. That said, it is quite possible to kill with a .22 pistol, revolver, rifle or nail gun. As with a firearm of most any caliber, a kill depends on striking vital organ(s).
    People have been shot 5 times or more with a .22 even a 9mm handgun and have survived. It isn't that unusual. For self defense the weapon of choice is a 12 gauge pump action Shotgun. There may be more .22 firearms in circulation but that does not make it the weapon of choice for home defense.
     
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    Here is a cute take on Antifa. In Portland there is a requiremet to withdraw from violence. In other words, if you are attacked, you can be prosecuted if you respond. In Portland there is a video of an encounter where Antifa instigated a confrontation by throwing a bottle (usually filled with urine). The response was immediate and resulted in an Antifa member being kicked on the ground. Now that, in Portland, would be illegal but since Antifa wishes to never be unmasked they cannot go to the police to enter a complaint.

    The Proud Boys have been going around unmasking Antifa. Pulling off their masks and taking pictures then doxing the members once identified. Of course that means the Proud Boys are a right wing militia organization intent on violence according to the left wing outlets.
     
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    giggle giggle You don't get the concept of anarchist, do you?
     
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    the proud boys shouldn't be doing that it is it okay to put your hands on people. If they're doing criminal Acts against the proud boys or anybody I think it's okay to unmask them.

    But I'm not a fan of duty to retreat. If someone is threatening your life credibly you should be able to use whatever Force necessary to stop that threat you shouldn't have to run away that's depriving you of your right to life.

    but then again states that have bans on weapons are depriving you of your ability to defend yourself.

    I'm pretty hard lined on that stuff.
     
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    No, it is not.
     
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    What is the objective of anarchists ???
     
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    They're not anarchists. People like GG allin are anarchists. People that try to force their will on other people are the opposite of anarchy. Antifa is an authoritarian group. you don't go out the streets and set s*** on fire an attack people to promote anarchy. That's the dumbest thing you've ever said.
     
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    Actually that is all self proclaimed anarchists have done. That doesn't mean they are not the new face of fascism.
     
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    That’s hilarious. Where or how did you come up with that steamin’ pile.
     
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    You are one weird dude. The right wing gangs that you have been defending, are sexually dysfunctional men. A characteristic that keeps popping up among conservatives. They start out with poor me speeches about how they can't get laid because liberals and feminists have ruined everything for them. Then they go out looking for a fight. Sexually frustrated men, those are your champions, that is what you are fighting for. You must feel so proud.
     
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    The antifa “anarchists” are merely projecting what they accuse R’s of doing. Projection is big on the left.
     
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