AOC for president? The buzz has begun

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  1. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Maybe in 10 years she will give a wonderful speech at the Democratic National Convention and be carried to the nomination in 14 years. The Democrats are just fine thanks and everything you know about Obama is phony scandals character assassination and fake news. A disgrace.
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. Whatever let you sleep better at night.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just want her to be as vocal and visible for all to see. Cal it whatever you want. As long as she’s in the spotlight, I’m all for it.

    Attack
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    And no other country offers more or better healthcare than this country. I can't think of another country in which I would rather live. And those countries where they have tried a living wage, beyond the long list of failed socialist countries, are finding they don't work are are unsustainable.
     
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    AOC for president? The buzz has begun

    Let's see if she can win re-election to the House.
     
  7. hellofromwarsaw

    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Total baloney. Our Healthcare is the best if you're a millionaire who doesn't need health insurance. Otherwise a travesty at least until Obamacare. Now it is guaranteed and the poor get it. Except in scumbag red states of course. Nobody wants to go to another country we want the United States to be fair for a change. Icaramba! And socialist does not mean communist. Try real news instead of garbage propaganda for a change...
     
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    Every other Rich modern country is socialist which means always Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net, not communism for the billions time. We are all socialists now!!, the Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed. Only right-wingers in the United States at this point don't know it. Of course the Finland prime minister did not realize how big the GOP is at irrational inhumane obstruction and sabotage.
     
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    In the modern sense a socialist, Democratic Socialist if you insist, is for Faire capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. Faire capitalism ever heard all of it? The GOP hasn't. We need a living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and infrastructure and mainly taxing the rich and giant corporations their fair share to do it. It's not rocket science. We are the richest country in the world but you would never know it. Thanks GOP!
     
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    I had no problems with healthcare in the U.S. prior to Obamacare.

    and I'm poor.
     
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    Why?
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    It's called fairness and not being a total coward for the greedy idiot rich. You think you are a hard-boiled independent. You are wrong.
     
  13. Dayton3

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    I care nothing for "fairness".
     
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    Oh that's funny.

    Finland’s government resigns after healthcare reform fails
    PUBLISHED FRI, MAR 8 20195:51 AM ESTUPDATED FRI, MAR 8 20196:18 AM EST
    Financial constraints are colliding with the healthcare costs imposed by Finland’s fast-ageing population. But cutting those costs is a major political obstacle in a Nordic country that historically has provided an extensive -- and expensive -- healthcare system.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/finlands-government-resigns-after-healthcare-reform-fails.html

    Single Payer Healthcare Failing in Several Countries
    Sweden is set to increase its retirement age and privatize parts of its healthcare system as a fully government-run approach for everyone is proving impossible to pay for.

    Denmark is raising its retirement age to 73 and cutting unemployment benefits. The government clearly hopes more people will work longer and die before needing assistance from the government.

    Finland has spent more than a decade trying to reform its version of ‘Medicare for All’, but to no avail. Parliament has realized that giving gifts from the treasury is easy, but paying for them is nearly impossible.
    https://www.conservativedailynews.c...ies-democrats-cite-as-examples-that-it-works/
     
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    If they are idiots how did they get rich?
     
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    I assume you would know that Finland and the rest of the Scandinavian countries are not remotely like the United States in any fashion whatsoever.
     
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    I've had great healthcare all my life and certainly not a millionaire. We have access to more of it, including new advanced pharmaceuticals, and better outcomes. Plus we have our economic freedom to pursue or own self interest which also makes us a great country. And being snarky adds nothing to your argument.
     
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    And highly capitalist.
     
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    Then I'm guessing you had no problems with your health or you had a good job. Only 50,000 people a year died because they didn't have health care that's just fine in the richest country in the world right? I caramba! Once again you were totally misinformed and uninformed.
     
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    what's everyone but the GOP calls unfairly Savage capitalistic. The worst inequality anywhere and worst upward Mobility anywhere ever after 35 years of GOP screwjob for most people. Wake up and smell the coffee Sleeping Beauty.
     
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    That's not many in a country with one third of a billion people.

    And I worked for Walmart so there is nothing you can teach me about poverty..
     
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    LOL @ "you people"...Yet it's the other side who is divisive...You dont know me from Adam and Eve. But I do know you are a judgemental sort.
     
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    And proud of it and people who follow you should have to deal with the same crap right? LOL so you were damn lucky with health. Try real news instead of dumbass propaganda.
     
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    I think it is a damn low estimate myself. Sure was a great system for getting people to quit their jobs and go on welfare so they wouldn't die. Real GOP Genius.
     
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    I had an appendectomy during that time.
     

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