Are Jews becoming even more like the Nazis?

We all know that the US has now admitted defeat in trying to convince the Jews to cease their persistent invasion of Palestinian lands. The take-over is now permitted to continue unabated.

Not only that, the US is providing Israel with the tools to help with its oppression. It has upped its military support - thus showing willingness to collaborate in israeli efforts to suppress the Arabs.

Now we have a bunch of Jewish religious leaders supporting the deprivation of native Palestinians. One can only assume it is an effort to ethnically cleanse the Jewish state by policies designed to drive Palestinians out.

There have been no protests by Israeli politicians.

Clearly, Jews are indulging in many of the same behaviours they have accused the Nazis of. And the US is now devoted to helping them cultivate their brand of imperialism.

That the Jews have recently applauded the Saudi injunction to the US to obliterate Iran is just another feather in their dowdy cap.

 

For now are worse than the South African Aparheid...

 

No, just for Jews stepping on Palestinians.

But that's kosher, right?

But, frankly, I think Jews would be laughable but for their ability to create tragedy. And, ironically, like Nazi Aryans, they call themselves "chosen".

 

I personally would absolutely love it if the entire world got together and sit both the PALS and JEWS down and made them get along like parents do with children. Unfortunately, and unlike you, I understand that both sides are instigating and just don't want to work together. Unfortunately for the Palestinians, the Israeli's are stronger. I'm smarter enough to know what happens then.

You're ability to label an entire race because of fews words while also defending another entire race from the same thing is a laughable insight into the type of person you are.

This world isn't black vs white. It isn't man vs woman. It isn't even liberal vs conservative.... It IS however sincere vs hypocrite. Unfortunately, you sir are on the wrong (*)(*)(*)(*) side.

 

Sorry? Hello...

I don't have anything against Jews like Chomsky and many others, just I have problems with Israel and their government and the people that support their almost genocide politics.

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Read my argument. I'm focusing in the government, I don't hate them. That's plain stupid.

Can't I be critic with the Israelian attitude? I can't consider that they are doing a lot of harm to the Palestines? I can't consider that country as invasor? If it is being hateful, then I am.

But I laugh of this victimism, the same of USA, while they are the opressors, typical victimism of the opressor.

Ah, and I'm critic with every anti-democratic attitude that any country has. And from your point of view I can be hateful of everything, of my own country, so of the Spanish, of Muslim(because I'm very critic with them), of Americans(I'm very critic too)...

 

Are you trying to ignore what I've said or what? Well, yes I said that the jews were worse than the Aparheid South African, I think that it's clear to what I was refering, not?

And as I told only I dislike what they are doing, not what they are, and awlry I assure you that he is thinking the same, although he told the Jews as a generalization, it isn't a whole, as I told there are many nice Jews, like the ones that refuse to go to the army, Chomsky, and many others, the majority are nice people, but the radicals one are the same for me that the radical christians, radical muslims and that ones are very dangerous.

For disgrace many of the radical are in power, and for that we have many problems.

 

How have I defended an entire race?

I have merely condemned a fascist state and its supporters.

 

You gotta wonder how the Israelis expect to survive.

Sure, the Yanks keep feeding their military. But the Yanks are in trouble themselves.

What happens when the jackals are left to fend for themselves? Will they lash out desperately and condemn the Middle East to nuclear oblivion?

An irony indeed. A holocaust of all holocausts - by Jews.

 

I'm not Jewish.

I don't even like Jews.

But as far as I'm concerned, as long as the Israelis avoid systematic murder of the Palestinians they can do what they want with the West Bank.

After all, Israel won it fair and square in the Six Day War.

 

I personally find the Star of David flag as offensive as some people find the Swastika flag.

 

First off ... I like Jews and their culture for the most part, some of the smartest people on the planet if you look around, but do try and get some better intel.

Half the population of Israel condemns the actions of the extremist Jews against the Palestinians .. some of the pilots boycotted, not flying missions (which were dropping 1000 lb bombs in the middle of crowded neighborhoods)

Can you imagine a US pilot doing this ? Jail for life as a traitor is my bet.

Second: Israel did not win their country .. they were given it after WW2.. and since then have violated the conditions of the agreement which gave them the country hundreds of times .. each time gaining more land.

If not for US backing the outcome of the 6 day war would likely be different.

 

Irrelevant.

The Six Day War was fought by Israel after clear acts of war by the Egyptians and Syrians (closing Israels access to the Red Sea, shelling Israeli villages). Jordan then foolishly joined in a losing effort and was defeated by Israel.

So by any standard, the Six Day War was a defensive war on the part of Israel.

Now, there will be those who say that the UN doesn't recognize land gained by military conflict

1) The UN hasn't had any credibility ever sense the 1960s when every third world hell hole gained a vote.

2) The UN has never condemned defensive wars. Even preemptive strikes when attack is imminent. So I doubt territory seized for defensive purposes would be disallowable.

Finally, Israel did not start the war that led to its independence. It was attacked by the various Muslim nations on the first day of its birth. All territorial expansion then was again in the effort of a defensive conflict.

Israel should keep what they have and toss those squatters (the Palestinians) back to the Muslim nations that they originated in. Mainly Jordan and Egypt.

 

There were no clear acts of war. In fact it was israel that had been provoking war for years before hand - occupying egytian land and settling the golan heights. The straights were never closed.

Israel knew well in advance what it was going to do and feared no invasion. In fact it if did all it need do was request repositioning of the UN defence force on its side of the border.

This has all been detailed by Israeli generals already.

And its not just 3rd world (*)(*)(*)(*) holes that get a UN vote, nor should your subjective criteria make any argument.

By the way, why dont you like Jews?

 

So the fact that the US backed Israel is irrelevant .. then you would agree to giving the palestinians equal military and financial support I take it?

This war happend well after WW2 .. so it is irrelevant to your point that Israel somehow obtained their land through war.

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Israel has been bulldozing .. and building new settlements for decades .. what does this have to do with the six day war ?

This UN is not perfect .. but in terms of credibility. One of the countries that has acted with the least degree of credibility has been the US
For example:

"The United States and the UK blocked condemnation of Iraq's known chemical weapons attacks at the UN Security Council. No resolution was passed during the war that specifically criticized Iraq's use of chemical weapons, despite the wishes of the majority to condemn this use.

On March 21, 1986 the United Nation Security Council recognized that "chemical weapons on many occasions have been used by Iraqi forces against Iranian forces"; this statement was opposed by the United States, the sole country to vote against it in the Security Council (the UK abstained"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

Israel has been criticized by most human rights organizations .. and btw .. even by the Bush administration .. and btw .. a good deal of the Israeli population ..

What further justification do you need ?

 

Nasser kicked out the UN force in the Suez before the Six Day War.

Nasser also announced the closing of the Straits BEFORE Israel launched its attack during the Six Day War.

No nation is obligated to accept imminent attack without responding.

Besides, Israel is an ally of the United States.

They can do what they want as far as I'm concerned.

 

Kicked them off egyptian land, and why didnt israel simply request their redeployment to their side? Thats exactly what the UN commander wondered.

Indeed, an announcement which is not an act of war. especially as the straits are not international waters.

No nation is obligated to accept annexation of its lands. There is no recognised right to a first strike, Hitler tried that argument, nobody accepted it then or now.

Not an argument either way.

Youll pay for them to do what they want? Anyway why dont you like Jewish people? They havent done anything to you, have they?

 

The Saudis do NOT want to obliterate Iran.. That is the opinion of Hillary Clinton and a propaganda tactic of the Likkud.

The Saudis want Iran to refuse to take the bait and be drawn into any regional conflict..

The claim that the Shia in the Eastern province of Saudi Arabia are loyal to Iran or a threat to the SAG is bogus.. They have been very clear and forthright as to their loyalties..

As for Jews behaving like Nazis..... I don't think that is a reasonable statement.

Some Israelis and rabid Zionists may think like Nazis, but the majority do not..

Israel's Likkud makes poor choices.. They always have.

 

Not in this context, because the variables are not the same. The Nazis waged a war of aggression, enslaving and exterminating people around them.

By contrast, Jews are fighting a defensive war, against people who have expressed a desire to exterminate them.

It is naive to think the two situations are the same thing.

 

Zionism is an ideology that the majority of Jewish people (like me) follow to at least some degree, so condemning zionism as a whole is equivalent to saying "well I don't dislike Jews, I just hate everything their culture stands for."

BTW, there is a big difference between what Israel is doing and what the Nazis were doing: Hitler was a crazy-ass fascist who needed a strawman to gain power, while Israel has been defending itself from people whose sworn objective is to destroy it. While it is true that Netanyahu's policies seem to be discriminating arabs as a whole to combat the issue, we cannot achieve peace when the government of Palestine is essentially a terrorist organization and the Extremists seem to strike back whenever a more moderate leader comes into power or when neighboring leaders try to negotiate peace (Bashir Gemayel, Anwar Sadat, etc.)

While I do not support Netanyahu's treatment of Arabs, he is dealing with a small but expanding group of people whose sworn goal is to destroy his country and will manipulate naive media forces to their favor by any means, such as hiding weapons in civilian populating areas thus humiliating the IDF when they are caught seizing them, using human shields, etc.

Besides, OP, have you ever had to deal with not just one BUT THOUSANDS of attacks on your own soil? Even before Israel's infamous invasion of the Gaza Strip, thousands of rockets had been fired from Hamas co-conspirators such as Hezbollah and the terrorist-harboring Syrian government into populated areas, destroying buildings, schools, and killing and injuring many people. Even after Israel withdrew, rockets continued to be fired back towards them, and Israel has written up some very just compromises that were refused by the Palestinian government simply because they would not acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Any compromises the Palestinian government has brought up were typically written in very broad terms and gives them power to do things like smuggle weapons through the border, making a compromise for them essentially a photo-op.

The Nazi's were crazy, Israel is in a defensive conflict. Any questions?

 

Nasser never closed the Straits of Tiran.. and no Israeli flagged ship had passed thru the Straits for 14 months prior to the Israeli attack on Egypt.



Moshe Dayan, The Defense Minister in 1967:

Dayan who gave the order to conquer the Golan Heights, said, many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and that the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland. Dayan stated "They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land... We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was... The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us." (The New York Times, May 11, 1997)

General Mordechai Hod, Commanding General, Israeli Air Force:

"Sixteen years planning had gone into those initial eighty minutes. We lived with the plan, we slept on the plan, we ate the plan. Constantly we perfected it." (Alfred M. Lilienthal, The Zionist Connection, New York: Dodd, Mead & Co., 1978, pp. 558-559)

 

That would be less ludicrous if Iran had known what the Saudi puppet said before Wikileaks released it.

But it was supposed to remain a secret. So how were the Iranians supposed to refuse to take bait they didn't even know existed?

 

Doesn't really explain why Israelis are invading and blockading Palestinian lands.

And if you think the Jews are not like the Nazis, the Warsaw ghetto and Gaza have much the same characteristics, including the bombings.

 

did you know that Hilter was going to exterminate the Muslims???

 

so you regard Palestinian children as being on the same level as ants?