Are neo-cons insane & unelectable?

War, war, war.
Invade, invade, invade.

This is all we hear from neo-conservatives. This is all they're interested in voting for, putting new wars and new invasions above domestic liberty and prosperity. None of them are actually in the military, mind you, they just call for wars and invasions and sending other men to war so they can pretend to be patriotic on internet forums and political talk shows. In truth, we know all they care about is sending OTHER people to war because they worship Israel - a nation perfectly capable of defending itself and fighting its own wars.

Are they insane?

We're 15 trillion dollars in debt and we've been at war for 10 years straight. They still want more wars. If we're at war for twenty years straight and completely broken economically in ways which we will never recover from they still will not be persuaded. They just want more wars, not that they themselves will be fighting them. They'll be supporting them, though, to show how much they love America... as they insist on more and more wars.

Are they unelectable?

The U.S. government is increasing its power over U.S. citizens in ways we once thought impossible. If constitutional conservatives were once viewed skeptically for warning of diminished liberty they aren't any longer. The NDAA in addition to the Patriot act brings us very close to a nation completely alien to what we know as traditional America. Dangerously close. They aren't interested in this. In fact, they support it, champion it, applaud it, and in addition to these alarming loses of liberty they more than anything else want more wars.

They think (according to Bachman and others) that Iran will be able to destroy multiple nations with a single nuclear bomb. One bomb, according to them, which Iran doesn't even have, will be enough to destroy America and all its allies, and so they want more wars - wars to stop Iran and wars to get back our drone.

Are they delusional? Completely unhinged? Insane? Unelectable? On the verge of destroying conservatism?

We know the neo-con `elite,` former big government democrats who infiltrated the Republican party to use it to launch more wars, are in their heart of hearts anti-liberty Stalinists. Is it possible they're just using conservatives for all they're worth, destroying the party completely and leaving it in ruins for more and more wars, and will soon just return to the Democratic machine after they've sufficiently pillaged the conservative base for their endless chain of wars?

Are they completely untrustworthy? Are their supporters completely mad? Are they even coherent? How on earth can you be a fanatical supporter of wars and wars and more wars that last decades and decades and NOT join the military? You would think with that sort of zeal for wars and invasion they would anti up. Not the neo-cons, though. They don't want to fight wars, they want others to fight wars, more and more and more wars.

I thought the left was unjustified in 2008 for painting John McCain as a complete psychopath. I was focused entirely on stopping a Trinity Church Bolshevik from reaching the White House. I'm starting to think I was wrong.

Was Putin right when he called John McCain "crazy" this week?
Are all neo-cons crazy?

I cannot believe it has come to this, knowing all there is to know about President Obama, but, depending on what he does with the National Defense Authorization Act, I might find myself voting for him over another one of these chicken-hawk psychopaths in 2012 if the media successfully anoints one to the Republican nomination.

Outlandish deficit spending and incompetence seems to me the lesser of two evils when confronted with the possibility of neo-con adventurism spiraling out of control into a third world war with serious global powers that will result in a complete transformation of America into an all out police-state.

How insane does one have to be to make Obama, an Afro-Leninist anti-American Saul Alinskyite, appear to be the less dangerous and more stable?
We'll see if Obama signs the NDAA. If he vetoes that will be a telling turn of events.

Why would the neo-cons overwhelming support the NDAA? Are they preparing for a third world war in which dissent will be swept away to Cuba?
Are these people completely and utterly insane? These non-military, bloodthirsty chicken hawks that seem to be more deranged then the most hardened and ambitious Soviets?

 

And are these "neo-con" supporters from every day American life under the impression that if they support the rise of a neo-con Police State and a third world war that Bill Kristol will personally be coming to their home to offer them a job with his think tank? They will be as much a helot in the new neo-con America as anyone else.

It is as least understandable that the neo-con elite would be power hungry war mongers with global objectives but to watch these neo-con cheerleaders from main street America rally behind every insane policy they propose leads me to seriously question their mental faculties.

 

Yes, and they think Ron Paul is insane for actually being sane.

 

I think they are totally electable considering many americans still tremble in their boots from 9/11 without actually demanding a significant investigation. Many want to send 16 - 17 year olds over to the middle east because it makes them feel safe at night.

As long as this goes on, people will be willing to vote it neo-con republicans and democrats.

 

By neocon you mean anyone who doesn't want to see Israel wiped off the map, correct?

Also, the money we spend on war is far far FAR less than what we spend on entitlements.

 

I disagree. I think polling shows without question that Americans now fear the U.S. government more than Islamic fascism. I think electing them relies on manipulation and wildly bias media outlets.

Their way is coming to an end regardless.

The question that remains is how it will meet that end what will be left of our nation when that end comes.

Neo "conservatives" do meet the definition of insanity. Whether that is complete madness or being sociopaths of varying degree is up for dispute, but the fact that they are psychopathic and deranged is not.

 

Exactly. Your entire view of the world is centered around Israel, a FOREIGN nation.

Were people just like you in power who had the same foreign policy ideas centered around China or Iran you would call them traitors yet you think you are not. You're walking a very dangerous line that approaches on treason to anyone who is not overly sycophantic about Israel.

 

Yes, they are certifiably insane. It's actually not only the neo-cons who support America being the world's police. It's also the progressive internationalists who wish to establish some utopia of world "peace" (through absolute global control through the UN), disarmament, and pipe-dream equality. I believe that Obama falls in this category of imperialist.

Where the neo-cons may be motivated more for the interests of Israel and controlling resources, the progressives will also continue to fight these wars at the expense of American taxpayers to achieve their ideal world of elitist rule. They can also be more dangerous because of their often times extreme environmentalism and anti-human outlook on what must be done to save the earth. Of course the upper tier of humans will not need to sacrifice to save the earth and establish world peace, but they don't mind seeing the middle class pushed into poverty. It makes for less consumerism.

Read George HW Bush's rantings about his world order to see the superficial goals of this global totalitarianism.

 

Anti-Jew thread (Seeing how Neocons were Jews)

 

It started that way but it's grown well beyond being a Jewish issue.

 

Unless a buncha Jewish Democrats have suddenly become conservative Hawks on Defense (Like 1991) then the Neo has Faded away and they are just Cons (Conservatives)

 

That is a straw man argument if you think Ron Paul wants to see that happen. You are actually showing the soft racism aspects towards Isreal thinking it cant defend itself like liberals think minorities can't get into college without help.

So you are ok with letting soldiers, sailors, marines, and Airmen die because it cost less than to keep welfare queens collecting government handouts? Guess what, you can cut the funding to BOTH and double the budget cuts. I know you have only been given the option of one or the other, but there is a third option believe it or not.

 

The Jewish neo cons are arguably the one faction of the neo-con army that aren't insane because they are steering American foreign policy to accomplish their objectives. That falls into the definition of many things but I would not count insane among them. The insane are the neo-cons that aren't Jewish who are prepared to bring America to its knees economically, destroy American liberty domestically, bleed the U.S. military dry and surround us with more and more threats in response to our actions, all for the benefit of a foreign nation the size of Connecticut on the far side of the earth.

The lesser you are in the neo-con hierarchy the more irrational your position becomes. At least the men at the top benefit politically and financially from such positions. The neo-cons who just post on internet forums will get nothing but chains and cake.

 

The Neocon Army ? ,dude you just lost all credability (Like Gator Monroe did long ago)

 

It is not just an issue of blood although that is an important one, and it is not just military spending. It is nation building that is a serious drain.

 

Cabal would have been a more accurate word.

 

I'm more concerned with the way this country is governed by nazi-libs.

 

Ron Paul's worldview is like a Jerry Lewis Movie.
meant for laughs.
Just ask a China or an Iran.

 

FemiNazis & Gay Mafia Nazis & La-Raza/MECHA Open Border Nazis , & Greenshirt Nazis, & Union Nazis , & OWS/99%er Nazis ...

 

Neo-cons' worldview is like a World War documentary.
meant for the History Channel.

Just ask China what they would do if you warmongers attack Iran.

 

Put any label you want on them, yes, they ARE insane. And the worst thing is, last night at the debate those lines got the applause.

Bachmann was the worst. She must think that Iran is developing a reusable nuclear bomb and the crowd ATE IT UP!!

These neo-cons are puppets. The Iran issue serves not only Israel but the Sunni. At the heart of it though, they are protecting the dollar as reserve currency. The elites know this, but the average neo-con just sees bogeymen. Take a look at the countries we have invaded or are threatening. They are either Shia or have threatened to use currencies other than the dollar for oil trades or both. Take a look at the Arab League and see who controls it....Sunnis. We are doing what is in everyone's interest BUT America's.

At the end of the day, America will be in shambles, the ME will be a graveyard and the elites will have profited handsomely and will carry on with the new order that will rise from this cluster (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

They would throw Iran under the bus pronto ...

 

War is the health of the state, and being progressives, they want a powerful state. When things are peaceful, the people stop fearing bogeyman and start thinking about their freedoms and prosperity. That's why we not only have wars against other states, but against concepts like "terrorism" and human behaviors, like self-medication.

 

Do you feel lucky, punk?

 

If the Chinese are serious about stopping American adventurism in Iran that will bring Russia into the fold and will likely isolate America completely from Europe.

Now you're no longer dealing with 8 rag tag Muslims in a raft with dynamite rowing towards an American cruiser, now you're dealing with hydrogen bombs.

I think the time has come for main street neo-cons to stop acting like a Washington elite think tank is their favorite sports team.