Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

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  1. Esdraelon

    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Belief in Christ's message and attempting to follow His path actually supersedes ANY government authority. You seem to be saying that if a person's faith clashes with their duty as citizens then the faith has to be thrown off. The Bible is quite clear about the path we must follow and in the days ahead I believe we WILL be sanctioned, shunned, or worse if we refuse to be bound by the rules the government imposes. I'm ready for that and will not fight the PTB except to refuse to follow their edicts. I think the day approaches when anyone refusing to follow the path to "coexistence" will be labeled as haters and then those who want to harm Christians will be free to do so. At least, until the Lord returns.
    29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days: 'The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.' 30 At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn".

    That day IS approaching and I look forward with hope but also knowing the road immediately ahead is going to be horrific.
     
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  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Is Atheism a Religion?

    January 21, 2019

    In their attempt to reach the truth, the New Atheists have swapped their own version of scientific dogma for religious dogma.


    Although it isn’t an organized religion like Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, atheism is a religious worldview. With assurance rooted in faith (rather than in proven fact), the theist says “I believe in god(s)/God,” while the atheist with equal confidence says “I don’t believe in god(s)/God.”


    Atheism is a religious worldview because it claims to know something fundamental about reality that hasn’t been—or can’t be—proven. Like theists, atheists operate out of a foundational faith or belief that shapes their perceiving, thinking, and living in the world.


    https://www.thebanner.org/columns/2019/01/is-atheism-a-religion


    So why do atheists hate smart people?
     
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  3. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    If our ancestors weren't rapists and rape victims we wouldn't exist.
     
  4. Pisa

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    All arguments in favor of the "atheism is a religion" theory are predicated on the unproven assumption that atheism is a system of beliefs. While I'm not surprised that each and every such argument is based on logical fallacies (unproven premise and circular reasoning), I'd appreciate some effort to prove this basic premise.

    Opinion pieces in blogs and other non-scientific media are not welcome, however I find knee-jerk rejection of sources unacceptable, therefore I'll read it all.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    For some reason you think atheists have no beliefs.

    I find that hilarious!

    Well I suppose except for the atheist clique here, you can tell they dont have any beliefs because their posts are always blank.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Are you speaking for your own ancestors?
     
  7. Pisa

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    I know what you're trying to do, and I won't fall into that trap. Just noticing the use of more logical fallacies - hasty generalization and strawman - as proof that the theory you're defending is, in fact, logically untenable.
     
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    nah I am just having a great time watching the atheists squirm and dodge any argument that blows their defective atheology, or better said no atheology out of the water. They just love to defend the indefensible!

    Yeh 'the truth' traps are a biatch!

    Why dont you take all that atheological brilliance and apply it to rahls 'by definition' fantasy? lol
     
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    you don't know what this word means
    always happy to correct your silly bullshit.
     
  10. rahl

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    except as you know, atheism by definition is not a religion. Nor is it a world view.
     
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    Atheism Is Religion
    by Ken Ham and Bodie Hodge
    February 20, 2017

    One of the definitions of religion in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, however, is this: “a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.”

    Atheism certainly fits that definition, and many of its adherents are quite zealous about their faith system.

    those damn smart people always fking up someones great fantasy! :deadhorse:


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    and as you know, based on both the definitions of atheism, and religion, atheism is of course not a religion. It is also, by definition, not faith. It is the lack of belief.
     
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    "It never ceases to surprise me at the infinite capacity of the human mind to resist the introduction of useful knowledge'" - Thomas Raynesford Lounsbury
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't that why you have concealed carry laws? Why do you need anything other than concealed carry...
    unless of course you are just bored and want attention.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps...but are you able to recognize the same ignorance in your own responses?
    Recognizing your own shortcomings is the only thing of value to yourself or anyone else...
    being unwilling to do that is itself ignorance. By accusing someone else of ignorance...
    you have done nothing more than proven your own.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...Aren't you the self proclaimed intellectual that accused me of ad hominem?
    Well at least you're good at something
     
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    there is nothing to recognize, as I am demonstrably correct.
    your claims have been thoroughly disproven, using the actual definitions of the words. You can stomp your feet and whine all you want, but neither I nor reality give a ****.
     
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    good luck with that!
    For the same reason, atheists can hold a wide variety of ethical beliefs, ranging from the moral universalism of humanism, which holds that a moral code should be applied consistently to all humans, to moral nihilism, which holds that morality is meaningless. [105] Atheism is accepted as a valid philosophical position within some varieties of Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism.[106]

    Philosophers such as Slavoj Žižek,[107] Alain de Botton,[108] and Alexander Bard and Jan Söderqvist,[109] have all argued that atheists should reclaim religion as an act of defiance against theism, precisely not to leave religion as an unwarranted monopoly to theists.

    reclaim

    1. retrieve or recover (something previously lost, given, or paid); obtain the return of.


    I know how difficult deductive reasoning is for atheists so I included the definition of reclaim to clarify the matter, or send ya'll deeper into denial! :lol:
     
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    Lol....Spoken like a true narcissist...perhaps "Narcissism" is your religious preference
     
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    dysphasia
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes...me thinks physiological conditions may be more indicative
    of attitude and mental condition than it is given credit for.
    "Changes in physiology can impact the mental functions of individuals. Examples of this would be the effects of certain medications or toxic levels of substances.[7] Change in behavior as a result of these substances is often used to assess the health of individuals."

    It is written..."Forgive them for they know not what they do."
     
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    like religion, and atheism, you seem to not know what the word narcissism means.
     
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    Lol...can't wait to hear your "correction"...
    it will have something to do with baseball....
     
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  24. Kokomojojo

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    Understanding the meaning of words, sentences, linguistic, grammatical, and syntactic construction (language) is more specifically related to the wernicke varieties of malfunction, that may be either physiological or psychological.
     
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    no, just that like atheism and religion, you applied a term incorrectly.
     

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