Are religions that preach inequality for women and gays, traitors to their country?

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  1. Pisa

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    I'm not sure what you tried to prove with your Wikipedia quotes, but here's something interesting from the same article:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Religion_and_morality
     
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    Since in fact there is no concensus as to what precisely constitutes a religion...
    atheism could be classified as religion according definition...as quoted from online
    references.
    In regards to your repeated claims of you being "demostrably correct" no matter what is given
    to refute your rediculous baseball analogy... I'd say you and narcissism have a lot in common.
    It could also be said that your intense affection or devotion to the belief that you are "demostrably correct"
    about everything...may also classify as a religion..at least in your case.
     
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    Not sure what you are trying to prove with your quote below...can you explain please?
     
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    refuted this already. The definition of atheism precludes it from being a religion. The definition of religion precludes atheism from being a religion. Atheism isn't a belief. It is the lack of belief. Do you think making the statement "I don't believe the easter bunny exists" is a religion?
     
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    Contextomy!
     
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    But your strange analogies refute nothing...
    and so far that is all you have offered to support your claims of being "demonstrably correct".
    Words in the English language often have more than one definition...
    "The Oxford English Dictionary also defines religion as “a particular system of faith and worship” and “a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.” Under that second definition of religion, atheism is religious.

    It can also be said that Atheism is a "belief" that there is no god.
    It's not a lack of belief at all.
    All of this is simply a matter of opinion...
    and as such can only be "demonstrably correct" to you and anyone that agrees with you.
     
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    directly refutes your claim. Words mean things. The definition of both atheism, and religion preclude atheism from being a religion, as it is not a belief system. It is the lack of belief.

    You didn't answer my question. do you consider the statement "I do not believe the easter bunny exists" is a religion?
     
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    Questions have a question mark at the end.

    Whether "religions have morals" is not the question.

    If some religion wants to espouse morals, that's fine. But, that's NOT what makes a religion a religion. Anybody can have moral standards. Any philosopher can write about morality and ethics. Religion is NOT REQUIRED.
     
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    Lol...I will gladly answer that question with one of your very own "demonstrable correct" answers below....
    Your opinions are no more or less important than anyone else's....
    Go to Koko's thread here if you wish to continue...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/atheists-on-another-religious-tantrum.584640/
     
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    I haven't offered any opinions. I've shown you the definitions of the words, which refutes the claims you keep making.

    It's ok, we both know why you won't answer "do you think not believing the easter bunny exists is a religion?"
     
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    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    - Douglas Adams -
     
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    Lol...Cool! You quoted someone else's opinion of opinions...
     
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    I've already given the most "demonstrably correct" answer (your very own in fact) and you ignore it.
    Tell you what....go to Koko's thread and post all of your analogies.
    I'm quite sure you will get the answers you require.
     
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    I've posted there already. but I will continue correcting you in this thread if you insist on incorrectly stating atheism is a religion.
     
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    Okay deal...but if I don't respond...please feel free to continue on without me.
     
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    *delete*
     
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    Ok...in an attempt to get your thread somewhere in the fascimile of on topic again I made an atheist is a religion thread so those who are lacking belief or otherwise can direct their ducking and dodging there..... anyway this thread is a problem, its premise is entirely faulty in that you cant be a traitor to the guv with your religious views unless the guv is a theocracy.
    Like stalin for instance when he adopted atheist marxism as the state religion and being a benevolent atheist commenced to murdering anyone who did not covert to his religion, like priests and what did he accomplish? Going down in history as a mass murderer.
     
  19. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    You can bet the universe that countless numbers of your ancestors got raped and were rapists. We are lucky if were don't have to deal with such things in our lifetimes but some of our ancestors certainly did. It is what it is.

    Just one typical example =https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2018/03/11/PICTURES-The-largest-mass-rape-in-history (the link may not open, depending on your browser)

    The same basic article without pictures =https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11
     
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    Sure but I doubt it happened in my family.
     
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    You do know that your ancestors go back hundreds of thousands of years, don't you? What do you think they were doing 200 years ago?
     
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    there are no records about individuals dating back that far.
     
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    Don't you believe that a spirit knocked up a virgin? Yet you don't think that some of your ancestors got raped and were rapists.
     
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    How many did the inquisitors bankrupt, murder etc., just for the victim not wanting to think a thing.

    The religious are lucky that secular suffers their vile ideological and dysfunctional thinking.

    So much for the oath of allegiance that so many swear to then ignore. Traitors.

    You seem to like old laws. Stoning fornicators. Is that one that you like?

    And you bad mouth atheists. Tsk tsk.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Opinion not based on fact.

    This last on creation is a demonstrable falsehood.

    This discredits all you post everywhere. All that copy past gone to waste.

    Regards
    DL
     

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