Are religious people being opressed?

Heinrich Himmler was a secular humanist for example. All of his SS-men had to marry without priest and he tried to create a new religion for the masses far away from the christian religion.

http://youtu.be/Vgw1DqgtI0E

 

Very good by all accounts. Even if you consider Catholicism anti-Christian (which I believe you do), it's still religion, supporting the lack of oppression in general.

The American Atheists don't have much relevance in the UK. The clue is in the name.

Those individuals are free to say what they want but don't represent any kind of majority nor any real difference in general attitudes (though possibly the difference of no longer being sent to prison for expressing them).

Some people are anti-religious. Lots of people are atheist but not anti-reliigous. Most people couldn't care less either way. The point remains that there is no demonstration of Britian becoming anti-Christian or that religous people are being oppressed here in general.

 

No - in Germany the word "victim" became a spearword in the new young multi-cultural generation and "civilization" - specially in Berlin (also called "metropolis of atheism"). The word "victim" is used in nearly the same way like the word "looser". It's trendy - but it's very negative and without any compassion.

It's not only a problem of the language. Last year for example a young man was sitting in a railway station in Beriln - and someone felt compassion with this boy because he looked so sad. So he went to him and asked: "May I help you?". This man got attacked immediatelly very heavy and brutal and became murdered from this young grown up. It's really very difficult - even sometimes dangerous - to be a Christian meanwhile.

http://youtu.be/JwvLiROLJf0

 

Looser than what?

Have YOU been oppressed because you are a Christian?

 

Hmm - I thought the expression "looser" came from the english language into the german language. Maybe it's one of the english-sounding german expressions without any contact to the anglo-saxon and anglo-american world. Indeed - it means something completly different in the german language than in the english language. If a german calls you a "looser" then he thinks you are a loser.

no comment

http://youtu.be/3VBVqE-UtHw

 

Valid point.

I would argue that Christians suffer the most amount of oppression through their own religion, which promotes ignorance and narrow-mindedness.

 

I'm able to understand that you living in fear of narrow mindedness and promoted ignorance. But why do you not change this in your life without attacking other people and their religions? I'm for example absolutely convinced that Mohammed was a liar. But I don't feel any motivation to discuss now with every Muslim about this problem. And I would not say Muslims are ignorant or narrow-minded people. It would be an ignorant and narrow minded nonsense to do so.

So my serios question: Why do you do so? Who told you that you have to do it this way? What means this for your own life?

http://youtu.be/Kfq1uMnQo38

 

My serious answer: I was responding to the original post ... "Are religious people being opressed?", to which I answered "I would argue that Christians suffer the most amount of oppression through their own religion, which promotes ignorance and narrow-mindedness".

 

Okay - I can live also without answers.

http://youtu.be/EwiTIsviJ9M

 

You've chosen the right faith then.

 

Sure - I'm not allknowing and I have to trust in other people - and in case they will kill me then I will die.

http://youtu.be/UOmIR1XDUDk

 

@Uncle Meat

I forgot: I will also die if no one kills me. So you're also right in another way: I'm lucky that I was born as a member of a very good religion. The best religion I know something about, although it is not perfect.

http://youtu.be/gP-DYiJfw6g

 

That is so cool. Me, I'll die either way.

 

And?

http://youtu.be/NrhfDwL2xek?t=3m27s

 

Christians have always whined, they whined about the Romans, about the Jews during the pogroms and days of rack and fire. They whined about the muslims and anyone else they came into contact with. They whined about Native Americans and Hawaiians, and on and on and on. Things usually end up with the Christians trying to eliminate the things that make them whine.

 

That's a historical anachronism -- the reason for the anti-catholic bias is that the monarchy became the head of the Church of England after one of the King Henry's decided that since the Roman Catholic Pope wouldn't let him divorce his wife, he would form his own church. So naturally since the point of the King forming his own church is that they are no longer Catholics, they couldn't have a Catholic king.

But the idea of religion has always been persecuted. The reason is that people don't want someone telling them that they must behave a certain way or face consequences. No one likes to hear that an activity they want to do is forbidden, and religion exists to do just that. People just aren't comfortable having to answer to a power higher than themselves.

 

Actually, it depends.

Christians do get discriminated against. It's not a big deal, but it happens. Every group at some time gets discriminated against.

Try being a graduate science student and saying you're religious...... You'll learn about discrimination.

 

Have you met many far right christians who you would call sane?

 

Other than your bigoted remarks about a foreign nation and its right to enact the laws it wishes to, and some other bigoted remarks about various religions, I am not sure what this post was supposed to mean?
I seem to get that you want Muslims to be the head of the catholic or Anglican church? That makes no sense, lol, only an Anglican can be head of the Anglican church. A Muslim or catholic can certainly NOT be head of the Anglican Church.
Oh, humans are the "higher power", no god or gods exist. Humans run govts so humans are the highest power on the Earth. And we all answer to humans in one way or another, it makes no difference if you are comfortable with it or not.
OH, some people have anti-Islamic bias, some anti-catholic bias, some just anti-religion bias, others have anti-atheist bias, anti democrat bias and on and on. Bias is on of the common traits of humanity, lol.

 

None at all.

 

I've met no militant atheists I've found sane either....

 

what do you think of the concept of a better religions bureau; in a manner analogous to a better business bureau?

 

As long as it's like the BBB, a private organization, I'm fine with it.

 

Well, I have personally met thousands of far right Christians, and never met a militant atheist, lol. So, my guess is that the insane FRC's do far more damage than do the militant atheists.

 

The only better religion is an absent one, hehehe