Are the KKK liberal or conservative?

Gee, it's nice to know that you actually will tolerate someone who has a difference of opinion. When did I say you called for conservatives to be banned? Why do you always jump to odd conclusions?

 

Thank you for your posting about your upbringing and your family. It explains a lot about your views. It doesn't justify them, but it certainly explains them.

 

That may very well be true for some communists but it rings hollow when espoused by someone whose avatar contains the hammer and sickle topped by a star that comes directly from the Soviet flag.

 

Initially, they were formed to defend the liberal belief that blacks were not people due to semantic loopholes in the Constitution. Whereas the conservative belief was that the Constitution should be interpreted according to the spirit of the law.

Liberalism has a lengthy history of attempting to use semantics for personal gain. Modern liberals do this in many places today.

 

My Democrat friends weren't even born then. Surely you are not saying the sins of the fathers should be visited on the sons? That would be a very odd position for a true patriot to take given the history of race in America. As far as painting anyone I disagree with as racist - huh? I was merely commenting on the wonderful time my family had in your friendly state courtesy of your conservative brethren taking back their country. Lighten up, Cliven. (Pun intended)

 

And this is an argument for tarring a whole group of individuals with the same brush rather than treat everyone as persons in their own right with different motivations, views and opinions?

 

Well, the thread is pure flame bait if you haven't noticed. Why not ask if Buddhists are liberal or conservative?

 

No, not really. But it does explain a general quality that has been historically consistent among the left wing.

 

Except that Communism is a political movement, the KKK is not. I can point out people in our politics that subscribe to communist philosophies. Our president is one. I cannot point to anyone in politics that are members of the KKK or subscribe to their brand of racism. Robert Byrd that WAS a member of the KKK in his earlier life, but later rejected this. I can't say for sure if he still carried those racist beliefs. Communism is an extreme brand of leftism. There is nothing right wing about what the KKK believes.

 

They are to the political right to exactly the same extent Fascist are to the political left. Not everything or everyone fits on the left right dichotomy regardless of what wiki says. If you create a line and put anarchism on one end and totalitarianism on the other you and the Klan would be closer together than you and I. and I would be much closer to anarchist than most left wingers.

 

folks are getting pretty desperate, when they call the KKK "Liberals".

 

If there is nothing right wing about them, why are the classified as right wing by EVERYONE except the right wing themselves? Even Wikipedia classifies all KKK groups as right wing.

 

The only difference between the the Nazis and the former Soviet Union was that the Nazi slaughtered, in the main, Jews and Gypsies while Stalin pretty much was an equal opportunity mass murderer. other than that there were no policy differences, save that Hitler was mildly more liberal in his willingness to use military force to achieve his ends. Yet the notion that Hitler who had national health care, gun control, and virtually every other left wing shibboleth you'd care to mention was right wing almost entirely because Stalin, a lying murdering scumbag said so. The Klan believes as much in social planning as you do they just want to use it for different purposes. Again not everything fits the left right dichotomy.as neatly as you'd like. Le Pen's only difference with the rest of the left wingers in France is that he wants to limit all those social programs to people whose grand parents were born in France. If you don't want to believe me go read Le Pens party platform. The same is true of the British BNP who differ from the other socialist parties in that they wish to send Britain's Muslim minority, which is mostly Pakistani, home.One should note that every time some dude with a British accent saws the head off another reporter BNP gets a few more members.

The point of all this, of course, is that leftist academics, who write most of the wiki entries, have a long and ignoble history of calling other leftists extreme right wingers when they object to some of their policies. The leftist of your grandfathers generation thought the Nazis and Fascists to be exemplary leftist until the Spanish Civil War then during the Spanish Civil War those same Nazis and Fascists became extreme right wingers and then after the Russo German nonaggression Pact they became good leftists again. And stayed that way until Operation Barbarossa a few years later.

 

the KKK is Liberal?

as in they support abortion rights, open immigration, Affirmative Action, gay rights?????

who knew!!!!!!!

 

thats right the liberals promote mother to kill their own children. very good morals right?

liberals history, read this if you dare.
http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html


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LOL!!!!!!!!!!

you ignorantly assume that ALL Democrats have always been Liberal, for the last 200 years.

 

How many pre-1964 southern racist Democrat bigots did NOT join the Republican party after 1964?

Orval Fabus
Benjamin Travis Laney
John Stennis
James Eastland
Allen Ellender
Russell Long
John Sparkman
John McClellan
Richard Russell
Herman Talmadge
George Wallace
Lester Maddox
John Rarick
Robert Byrd
Al Gore, Sr.
Bull Connor

In fact, it seems that MOST of the Dixiecrats did NOT join the Republican party, even though many of them lived long past 1964.

Only a very FEW of them switched to the GOP, such as Strom Thurmond and Mills Godwin.

And as we all know by now, the LAST admitted former KKK member in Congress was DemoKKKrat Robert Byrd, a former KKK Kleagle, a recruiter who persuaded people to join the KKK. He fillibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

So where do we get this myth that "most" of the southern racist Democrats switched to the Republican party after 1964?

Is it a myth?

Or just another Democrat LIE?
Look up the above names for yourself. see when they first entered offic and when they left offic of are still in office
and are still and was democrates.

 

what makes someone a Liberal in the USA?

they support Affirmative Action.

they support abortion rights.

they support The Voting Rights Act.

they support gay marriage and gay rights.

they support loose immigration rules.

they support legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana use.

they support higher taxes for the wealthy.

they support a stronger welfare state.



the KKK accepts these things too??????????????

 

Maybe you should ask the OP? Equating Buddhism with the far right wing Klan? The KKK is a religion? I thought that Southern Baptists filled that niche for those people.

Cliven, hurry up with that there rope and kerosene! If we don't git this n***** strung up quick we gonna be late to pray to sunny Jesus at the service!

 

READ: They support legal racism. Liberals are the real racists in America.

READ: They support the wholesale slaughter of innocent children, a Holocaust that would blow Hitler's mind.

Republicans got that passed in the 60's. Liberals pay lip service to it now just to get votes.

READ: They support perverted sexual activities.

READ: They are lawless and allow people to break Federal Law just to get the ignorant to vote for them.

READ: They are dopeheads who want people to do dope.

READ: They wage class warfare. The wealthy already pay almost all the taxes.

LOL!! The Welfare State. What a thing to support!! Conservatives would rather see PEOPLE HAVE A JOB!!!!!

There you go people, all that is wrong with America right from the mouth of an extremist Leftist.

 

No they are statist left in that they support big government. They just want to use that big government for different purposes than you do.

 

Sounds pretty Klannish to me. Har!

 

With the possibility of Gay marriage and that's debatable none of those things are classically liberal they are statist left.

 

It's not surprising the left would classify them as right wing; it serves their political agenda to cast the right as racist. The right don't classify them as right wing because they refuse to associate with them. Me, being on the right, can tell you emphatically that there is nothing they do that I would say "I can relate to them" on any level.

 

They are just right wing extremism taken to a whole unacceptable-to-most-right-wingers new level but it is still right wing extremism taken to the logical end.