Are the KKK liberal or conservative?

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  1. CatholicCrusader

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    Democrats Were the Defenders of Slavery & Hateful Policies, Not the GOP



    [video=youtube;duhUaS9JEKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duhUaS9JEKo[/video]
     
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    Sometimes you have to drive the point home several times before it sinks in, and even then it doesn't always.

    Yes I do. Do you understand that it is liberals today who view everything through racial lenses and not conservatives?
     
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    'Left' is not simply the same thing as 'authoritarian'. Not even slightly - that's a total misunderstanding of politics.
     
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    So Wikipedia is left wing?

    Also the Anti-Defamation League even considered the KKK right wing,
    "Of all the types of right-wing hate groups that exist in the United States, the Klan remains the one with the greatest number of national and local organizations around the country. "
    http://archive.adl.org/learn/ext_us/kkk/default.html


    Look, liberals have Communists on their side, you conservatives have Klansmen and Nazi's on your side, that is just the way the world works.
     
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    Notice how when he talks about Democrats today he says "The Democrat liberals" but when he talks of Democrats in the past? He just says "The Democrats" and leaves off the "liberal" tag, you know why? Because Democrats were not liberal back than.


    Just answer this one basic question with a yes or no, has the Democrat party always been majority liberal all throughout its history?
     
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    That is why I used the term statist left... The only real difference between statist left and statist right is how they would use the power of the state. And often there isn't a lot of difference even there.
     
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    The Statist left will, and does, use the power to give to the poor. The Statist right uses that power to give even more to the rich. That is the difference between the left and the right, its class warfare, Rich vs Poor, Proletariat vs Aristocrat, Right vs Left
     
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    In the 1860s, the Democrats were Conservatives and the Republicans were Liberal/Progressives.
     
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    Utter nonsense. The statist right are people like Le Pen and the BNP. The statist left are straight socialists or want to be. Both are into class warfare the right tends to engage in racial warfare as well. The statist right essentially does not exist in the US. The left in America is basically running against a strawman.
     
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    Hell, we saw what happened back in the day in Philadelphia, Mississippi when three liberals had the NERVE to register black voters.
     
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    Propaganda mostly, but then again also stupidity. Since the conservative base is rife with so many easily manipulated idiots, they assume everyone else is as stupid as they are. Since they buy into nonsense like "The KKK is a bunch of liberals who used to lynch conservatives", they assume/hope everyone else will.
     
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    So, all these threads created about black on white crime, Mexicans/Hispanics ruining "white culture", etc, are not created by conservatives? Rather, they are created by evil and mischievous liberals pretending to be conservatives, in order to make obviously color blind conservatives look bad, yes?
     
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    The answer to this thread is they are social conservatives. Always have been, always will be. What party they supported then, or support today, is irrelevant. They are conservatives, period. There is absolutely NOTHING liberal about a klan member. The same applies to other white nationalist/supremacist groups.
     
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    Well, I going to make sure that as I post it again, I am using the guidelines for posting a video.

    First, a comment: Democrats have long been the party of segregation and racism. Today they try to flip the script by saying that in the old days Democrats were the conservatives and Republicans were the liberals, and therefore try to take the spotlight off of the Democrat party and off of liberals. In the following video, Alfonzo Rachel explains why that is false, revisionist history..........


    [video=youtube;vb6Hv4nJ40U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb6Hv4nJ40U[/video]
     
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    I hardly view Wiki as the authority of anything. Articles posted there are typically from ordinary people claiming they are experts. Some are.

    From Wiki:

    Wikipedia:Ten things you may not know about Wikipedia


    Wikipedia:Academic use


    Having put two kids through college, I can tell you they do not allow research sourced from Wiki.

    Again, I am not saying the KKK doesn’t subscribe to right wing philosophies; what I am saying is the right – conservatives, those that are typically found in the GOP – do not subscribe to their thinking as a whole. Talk to the typical person on the right and they will reject the thinking of the KKK. I doubt you will find anyone in our government, at any level, that would knowingly accept donations or endorsements from the KKK. Their philosophy is rejected across the board.

    The insinuation that ‘my side’ (whatever the heck you think that might be) accepts and even participates in racism is not even remotely true. There is racism that exists on both sides, but it is not a core practice.

    But a little reality is due here… My family is from West Virginia. I have been all over that state. They are predominately democrat in that state. It is commonplace to see the Rebel flag in truck windows and windows of homes. Take that for what it’s worth.
     
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    Who cares about the KKK anymore? Are you guys all aware how small of the population they are? What about the new black panther party that stands at voting stations in minority neighborhoods with bats, ensuring the voters vote the way they want? Are they the standard for all black people? Of course not!

    These extremist parties should be ignored.
     
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    By EVERYONE, do you mean Liberals?
     
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    QUOTE:


    Source: http://ashbrook.org/publications/oped-owens-02-racism/


     
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    If everyone who isnt on the right is on the left, than sure.


    If my evidence is not substantial enough, mind proving to me with credible sources that Democrats have always been liberals?
     
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    :roflol:


    You talk about how small of a population they are, even though they have more chapters than any hate group in America, than you go on to talk about black panthers intimidating people at voter stations? :roflol:!!!!!!!!!!! So hilarious, you know that was TWO (*)(*)(*)(*)ing guys right? Just TWO guys standing there at ONE point in time that Fox News flipped out over, they didnt even have bats you lying propagandist they were tiny little billy club things that matched their uniform thats it, certainly not bats.

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    If the Right Wing is SOOO not racist, than why do they deny racism against blacks everywhere they find it? They dont even think the Rodney King beating was racially motivated, they dont think the trial was racially motivated either. Can you honestly sit here with a straight face and say they arent racist? You are either lying, or you are a closet racist just like them.
     
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    So do those two guys represent all of black people? You didn't disprove anything I said...
     
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    I cant disprove a negative.


    Can you disprove that there is a tea cup orbiting the Earth right now? Now you cant, so shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up and stop pretending like just because you cant disprove something it must be true.
     
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    Can you provide anything that shows the Rodney King beating was racially motivated? Words of the cops before, during or after the beating? Anything? Even though King was awarded almost $4 million in a civil lawsuit, he continued to stay in trouble:

    • Aug ‘93 - Crashed his car while driving drunk. Forced to enter rehab.
    • Jul ‘95 - Hit his wife with his car. Spent 90 days in jail.
    • Aug ‘03 - Was arrested again for speeding and running a red light, driving under the influence. He failed to stop for police and crashed his car into a house.
    • Sep ‘10 – King announced he was going to marry one of the jurors on his civil case in which he won $3.8 million (suspicious).
    • Mar ’11 – King was arrested and later convicted of reckless driving.
    • Jun ’12 – King drowned. Alcohol, cocaine, marijuana, and PCP were found in his system.

    I supposed all of those incidents were racially motivated by LAPD? The problem with the King case is two-fold: you had a guy that decided to go on a high-speed chase rather than just pull over. King, regardless of circumstances, was on a path to self-destruction. He was his own worst enemy.

    Zimmerman/Taryvon case. That became a racial issue when no evidence supported it.

    The Ferguson shooting. You have Sharpton down there stirring people up that this was racially motivated before any facts were out about the shooting at all.

    The Tea Party. Democrats have run around since they were founded claiming they are racist where there is absolutely nothing to support it.

    The left has made it their core argument against the right. When they’ve failed on the real issues, they pull out the race card. And people on the right feel they have to defend themselves. THAT’S why they’re constantly denying it; because they’re constantly falsely being accused of it.

    Perhaps you can explain to me why the left always sees fit to make things into a racial issue rather than just let facts play out. Why do people on the left prefer to use the tactic of political vilification - accusing people on the right of wanting to push granny off the cliff, wanting to starve our children, wanting to keep the poor poorer - rather than just talk about the issues and how to solve them?
     
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    And you wonder why half the country thinks Republicans are racist? Even Rodney King? Come on now, everyone has seen the video and no one in their right mind would doubt it. All you are doing is throwing people into the Democrat party by being racist ********s, we dont even have to advertise you guys do it for us just by talking
     
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    So you have nothing.

    You know, because you believe it to be so doesn’t make it so. It was an ugly beating. But calling every white-on-black incident racist is just plain racist; which is exactly what the left has decided they are going to do.
     

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