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Are vaccines actually causing variants?

Discussion in 'Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions' started by 21Bronco, Aug 14, 2021.

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Love the troll

    I note that the troll response was because you cannot validate your statement
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A FAQ is not for argumentation. It's for answering questions that have already been addressed so we don't have to keep going round and round on the same nonsense. If nothing else, it helps at least jump ahead to whatever new wackadoodlery folks come up with to justify their ignorant stances.
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/cdc-covid-report-no-cause-for-panic
     
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    21Bronco, Aug 20, 2021
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  5. 21Bronco

    21Bronco Banned

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    If you assume the answers before proving them, that's begging the question. Basic logic.
     
    21Bronco, Aug 20, 2021
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Didn’t look up who the RACGP is did you?
    Hint
    upload_2021-8-21_2-47-25.png
     
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    21Bronco Banned

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    US Investigates Moderna Jab After Data Show 2.5x Higher Risk Of Heart Inflammation
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/us-investigates-moderna-jab-after-data-show-25x-higher-risk-heart-inflammation?utm_campaign=&utm_content=Zerohedge:+The+Durden+Dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zh_newsletter
    And now, a new twist: On Thursday evening, the Washington Post published a report claiming that the Moderna coronavirus vaccine may be associated with a higher risk of myocarditis in younger adults than previously believed. The report relies on new data from a Canadian study that has yet to be released.

    How much more dangerous is the Moderna jab than the Pfizer? Well, the preliminary data leaked to WaPo show the risk of myocarditis might be as much as 2.5x higher for the Moderna jab.
     
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    independentthinker, Aug 20, 2021
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    However, Smallpox is gone. Why is that?
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To repeat: the FAQ would not be for argumentation.
     
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    It would be for making assertions. Thanks.
     
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    As has been pointed out numerous times by others, previous vaccines worked at stopping Smallpox whereas these mRNA vaccines do nothing to actually stop the disease. All they do is lesson symptoms.
     
    independentthinker, Aug 20, 2021
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    Literally impossible. :applause:
     
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    Vaccines produce a spike protein that coats the covid virus and this coating targets the virus for destruction....in the body.
     
    politicalcenter, Aug 20, 2021
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    Ah! Zerohedge

    Don’t even have to look that one up - LOMUS site - Lots Of Made Up Shiezer

    But here they may actually have it correct

    upload_2021-8-21_9-9-16.jpeg
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...gher-risk-heart-inflammation-Pfizer-shot.html

    Not that I am much of a fan of the daily fail either because this must be seen in context I.e what is the myocarditis rate for the age group when they get Covid and is it as severe?
    And so far the myocarditis has been both rare and mild
    https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/studies-link-myocarditis-cases-to-mrna-vaccines

    https://www.who.int/news/item/09-07...ocarditis-pericarditis-covid-19-mrna-vaccines

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900

    And the rate of myocarditis following covid?
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2780548
     
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    Great use a disease that no longer exists :roll:

    Look even if you are fully vaccinated for Tetanus you can still get it BUT it is very very mild
     
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    Again, the vaccine just keeps the COVID from making you very sick and/or killing you, It doesn't keep the disease from getting into you at all. We probably will require annual boosters, just as with the flu.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Aug 20, 2021
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    What does "provide immunity" mean? It's one thing actual vaccines are said to do.
    And do you ever intend to prove your claim that variants cant mutate in the vaccinated, that you made several days ago?
     
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    Why do you argue with me when I agree with you? Yes, the vaccines greatly reduce hospitalizations and deaths. I've never said they don't.
     
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    LOL. And my link challenged your assumption.
     
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    Why do you people argue with me when I agree with you? I don't understand the point. I have never said that the vaccines don't reduce the severity of the disease.
     
    independentthinker, Aug 20, 2021
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    Of course they are. George Soros, Hugo Chavez, Groucho Marx and Joe Biden planned it that way back in the 1960s. Then Bill Gates and AOC presented it to the board of Deep State regents at Hillary Clinton’s pizza parlor as they all ate pizza topped with baby toes. Everyone knows this. Tell us something we don’t already know!!
     
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    Mine was from a medical journal authored by a medical officer and analysed the basis for the erroneous assumptions underpinning your report

    Your turn
    Because your posts are displaying a defeatist attitude

    Okay let us say you are right - does that mean we should not vaccinate or does it mean we should simply keep precautions in place until more people are vaccinated ?
     
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    Why use a seatbelt when brakes work?
     
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