As it stands, is there a single SHRED of evidence that the vaccine prevents transmission?

Vaccines have 71% effectiveness against transmission
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...-ties-covid-vaccines-lower-transmission-rates

 

What a load of nonsence . propaganda on steroids - "One study" on a small segment of the population - over a certain time does not an effectiveness rating give..

HEALTH AND SCIENCE
Israel says Pfizer Covid vaccine is just 39% effective as delta spreads, but still prevents severe illness
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/del...ective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

Remember this is Propaganda Central MNSBC coming upwith the title "Still prevents severe illness" being a complete lie - a false narrative.

But hey thought was supposed to be 95% effective ? 71% is a world of pain lower .. no chance of stopping transmission - won't get to herd immunity. A proper vax confers herd imminity when a little over 50% of the people vaxed .. this is not a vax .. its a treatment .

Oh . just so we are clear - so there is no confusion - .. if you can get covid again .. you are transmitting.A grim warning from Israel: Vaccination blunts, but does not defeat Delta

https://www.science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

This was the first and is the most fully vaccinated Nation .. moving on to booster shot 4 .. 59% of hospitalizations "Severe or critical" the ones who are going to die .. vaxed.

Anyone telling you that this vax prevents transmission - is lying to you - anyone who pretends it is not a moving target - like your link - is lying to you .. as perhaps there was a time - and setting .. where the vax managed to reduce transmission - on a certain strain of virus - when the virus was not in its attack cycle .. they do go in cycles in case you happened not to notice .. thats the problem with nature .. have that unpredictability factor .. and then as the thing mutates .. which is the ridiculous thing about this trieatment - throw your last study out the window - 6 months max descent protection (which is not a whole lot to begin with) more like 3 as things look to be progressing- and that is protection againts severe adverse effect . not againt transmission. .. if you are "a little sick" you are still transmitting like crazy.

 

Either way, it's more likely they will get sick from their patients than each other. Getting rid of your coworkers just means you get to be exposed to sicker people while on overtime! Horray!

 

Delta is the reason it is failing to meet expectations. But the vaccine is still effective. The hospitalization and death rates among people vaccinated people with delta is way below the rate for un-vaccinated. Not all that many people are in danger of hospitalization and death, of course, but it is what it is. I'm pro vaccine. I'm also ok with people choosing against it. I'm very much against government's involvement in the whole thing. Government's behavior has been so bad that I would support removing CDC, NIH and everything else medical from government. They have done far more harm than good for the country in the past year and a half. I'm amazed that the hysteria that covid brought is still with us.

 

You didn't read the study. Did ya?

The study was from February to may of this year. Against the alpha strain and not the delta.


Try again

 

Variants come with viruses. An approach to combat a virus has to incorporate variants.

That's the claim and I'm for it being true, but, we have massively vaxxed and the number of folks with natural immunity also increased over the last year, yet, and let me get up to date data:

Daily deaths, seven day average:
9/15/21 = 1,870/day
9/15/20 = 838/day

Current death rates are 2.23 TIMES a year ago. So the Vaxx Paradigm says "sure, those folks dying are the unvaxxed folks, no need to change course." Adherents of the Paradigm always argue against changing approach.

Now Fauci is Vaxx Positioned Hardened. No matter what the incoming data, his "solution" is MORE VAXX, but, he also is privy to incoming data before we are, so, we have seen him adjust his position, and then we saw the data it was obvious why. What's his latest pronouncement?

i) "Fully Vaccinated" means "with a 3rd shot"

What incoming data could this be explaining?

ii) A surprising number of these increased dead are vaccinated.

ii) is my guess, what's yours?

Those are good points.

 

"WHILE SOME DEMOCRATS KEEP FIRING THEM": We Are On The Verge Of The Greatest Shortage Of Healthcare Workers In US History.‘

"Genuine healthcare is a fairly recent innovation, but it sure didn’t take long to screw it up."

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/476609/

No one screws things up faster than Joe Biden.

 

I don't mean to be rude, but how can you still not know this?

Look into HOW the vaccines work. Basically, they teach your body to fight the virus, and so whatever viral load you initially acquire is not able to replicate, plus is actively reduced. That means you have less virus to spread to others.

 

Why are you still asking this? Just learn about the vaccines and you'll have your answers!

 

What is Maxx Vaxx?

 

Only if you think the vaccine is a force field against infection. Which it isn't.

 

Which reflects the increasing rate of VACCINATION. When the vast majority of your population is vaccinated, then obviously the majority of infections will be in vaccinated people.

 

Look at the dates of the studies. Delta was discovered in December of 2020. All the studies are months after that.

 

We know that the vaccinated are still getting Covid.

 

Post the actual link so I can read the studies referenced in the links.

 

Then why are vaccine mandates justified? That is, if you think they are.

 

When government starts redefining words to suit a political agenda, we are no better than N Korea

 

Yeah it was discovered in India. It didn't seed to the countries where the studies took place until much later.

 

But here's where the rubber meets the road: We learned early on of asymptomatic people, these people undoubtedly have viral loads of the virus. So is the vaccine boosting our immune system, or are we overloading on viral load due to the vaccine itself?

 

There IS no "choice"...

 

That's not how these vaccines work. It's even debatable that they should be called vaccines.

 

https://twitter.com/MonicaGandhi9/status/1384158117663969292

 

Garbage link that doesn't tell me anything but given that the comments in this tweet ask if the poster is worried about the Indian variant (delta) and the poster responds that they are because early reports shows it to be more contagious (this is dated in April) then I will have to conclude that everything posted in this link is garbage now as it's regarding the vaccine and the alpha variant.

Not the delta.

So this means nothing at this point. Don't post study results unless I can get a link to the actual studies though. Meme pictures mean nothing

 

Fine, don't get the shot. Pray you won't die if you get covid.

 

There's enough verbiage in the links in the image to search them. But, of course, unless you are lazy.


Look, I googled the top line:

Hall SSRN february 22 2021

And lo, the paper turned up.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3790399

So, I guess you are lazy.