s So this PENTTBOM paper stands as alleged proof that hijacked airliners were used as weapons ....... REALLY?
Your original question was about searching for evidence of explosives in the rubble of the WTC complex. That's what the link to PENTTBOM addresses. Don't go swerving now.
and the link you provided has no information about any tests for explosives, have YOU read this stuff?
You can say that the FBI looked for explosives, however is there an actual report of the result of this looking? details like what was inspected, and what methods were used to examine the bit in question.
There's this thing called the Freedom of Information Act. Contact the source (FBI) with your inquiries. Be sure to let us know.
Two things about this: A> the fact that the NIST reports ( even though they be white-wash jobs) are available on the web for all to see, why should it take a Freedom of Information Act Request to get the documents pertaining to what the FBI did? B> the FBI worked as a function of our taxpayer funded establishment WE paid for this stuff why is it not readily available? and additionally, the mainstream media has been selling the idea that radical Islamic terrorists hijacked airliners and crashed them, and so the fist one to make the assertion should be the first one called upon to support said assertion, where is it? what do we have?
It is readily available: all you have to do is ask for it. Multiple investigations from multiple entities worldwide, that's what we have.
OK, WHO do you ask, what is the magic "Freedom of Information Act" key to unlock the secrets? in the case of the NIST reports, one need only look on the web, why the problematic nature of getting this information?
You request the reports you want from the FBI. Nothing 'magic' about it. You've been given several links to reports available on the web, but you don't read them.
who said I do not read the links, Please do respond to the statement that the last link you posted to the PENTTBOM paper, had no reference at all to anybody looking for explosives, when in fact the discussion was about the documenting of the checking for explosives or explosive residue.
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11 Commission Report/9-11-fbi-report-2004-02(feb) This link was given, it opens a PDF document that discusses the hijackers and the whole fairy tale about these nasty Arabs who would dare to attack AMERICA with hijacked airliners. Documentation about explosives testing? where is it?
So its back to this, process a FOA request I thought you said the data was all over the internet? yet people have to dig for INFORMATION? I will look into this, but I am skeptical of it actually turning up useful data.
It is all over the internet, but you refuse to go to links. Therefore, I'll just direct you to the source from now on. Good luck.
you cite alleged refusal to read links when I have told you that the link you provided was deficient and you then accuse me of refusing to look at the links. If you actually have DATA, lets see, it, otherwise, the data doesn't exist.
Did you read my post? I was responding to Hannibal on the subject of his charge that I do not read the links he provided, & yes I read the link(s) and they provide no proof at all of there having been any testing for explosives.
The FBI tested for explosives and and they make it a point to say so on their website. Jones/Harrit tried to claim he had found evidence of thermite but they have been completely debunked...not only that, they refuse to share their samples. Why?
Did you ever consider the possibility that a taxpayer funded agency would LIE to the public? The stated on the front page of their bit about having "investigated" on 9/11/2001, however without any sort of documentation of the testing for explosives, they may as well have never done it at all and how does anyone know what tests ( if any ) were done and what results were obtained? I find it very suspicious that the FBI claims to have done tests, but is not forthcoming with any sort of documentation of the test(s). The excuse that I must process a freedom of information act request in order to obtain the documentation of the test they alleged to have done, but require citizens to not only specifically ask for it, but go through a procedure, that is reserved for much more obscure & esoteric sorts of INFORMATION. You say Jones/Harrit have been totally debunked, Please feel free to debunk this: > the "collapse" of the WTC towers had to have been the product of a well planned event and included the addition of energy be that input from thermite, or C4, or atomic bombs, but there had to have been the addition of energy to produce the result observed.
Yes, they lied. The eyewitnesses lied, the police lied, the FD lied, my eyes lied, the NJ ATC lied, the Boston ATC lied, United Airlines lied, the passenger familes lied, people inside the tower lied, all the networks lied, all the people on the gound who to videos and photos with their cam corders, cell phones, cameras.....THEY ALL LIED. Why? I don't have to. It's nothing more than assertion...AND there is no evidence to support it.
Quite the contrary, why is it written in NFPA fire code that anything that has been completely destroyed is suspicious? Like investigate the scene for incendiaries/explosives ( etc... ) the evidence is in the total destruction of WTC 1, 2 & 7 and while we are on the subject, why is it not an openly published document that is IF the authorities did test for explosives at ground zero, where is the document? Both the speed and completeness of destruction points to a controlled demolition.
