At Least 300 Dead In GAZA HOSPITAL BOMBING

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Link please
     
  2. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An assault was made on the innocents of one of our closest allies. We are at war. There are no considerations until the war is won. Perhaps you could have someone read that to you.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a war like no other. We had a thousand plus terrorists who represent the government of Gaza, completely ignore any international standards, invade a border and slaughter unmercifully innocents with a relished delight. Now you bring up international law in an effort to judge Israel. How appeasing of you. I guess we will always have radical university propagandized students screaming in the streets to justify Hamas and then.....we will have progressive appeasers to augment their efforts and attempt to end any Jewish efforts to protect themselves against annihilation!.
     
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    No one wants to take blame for bombing a hospital, be in purpose or by accident. The official Israeli explanation is that it was caused by a failed rocket launch in Gaza, where the rocket was intended to hit targets in Israel, but hit the hospital instead. According to Israel, there has been 400+ failed launches (by Hamas and other groups) during the conflict, and I believe that is true given the fact that the launchers are home made from materials like water pipes.

    As expected, Hamas blames Israel.

    US has officially accepted the Israeli version.

    We are not at war, but I'm glad to see US stand 100% with Israel on this.

    Who do you refer to by "the world" in your post? Based on what I am reading "the world" does not believe it.
     
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  5. Bluesguy

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    Unless there was a arms cache inside. There is film showing a Gaza fired missile misfiring and falling on the hospital. There is also a recording of a phone call of tow Hamas operatives talking about they fired it.
     
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    It was a serious question. Do you see North Korea the way you see Palestine? Or the way kidnappies see their kidnappers? Especially those who have been imprisoned for a very long time? Many start to empathize with their captors. I don't understand how you misinterpreted my questioned?
     
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    Wait for it...the video is fake, AI generated. This is what we are hearing from college educated anti-Israel protestors. The only way these people will be convinced is to shove their noses down the beheaded babies necks.
     
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    ...but Israel made them do it.
     
  9. Josh77

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    There would have been secondary explosions, probably several. The Hamas rockets are not very big, so it would have taken something much larger to kill 300-500 people. There would have been a chain reaction of massive explosions occurring. The video put out by the Israelis showed no such secondary explosions, just one massive one.

    There was also a tweet by Israeli officials talking about striking a hospital because there was no medicine anyway, which was deleted right after the explosion.
     
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  10. Bluesguy

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    Try 300lb. and can do extensive damage.

    "The Khaibar-1 rocket [also designated the R-160] is an unguided artillery rocket, developed and manufactured by Syria. Reports suggest the Khaibar-1 is based heavily on the Chinese Wei Shi (WS-1) MRL system. The rocket is named after the 629 CE Battle of Khaibar, fought between early Muslims and resident Jews.Armament Research Services, March 12, 2014, http://armamentresearch.com/assessment-of-the-khaibar-1-rockets-captured-by-the-idf/." title="" aria-describedby="qtip-31" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(7, 52, 74); transition: all 0.3s ease-in-out 0s; text-decoration-skip-ink: auto;">32

    The Khaibar-1 has a range of 100 km while carrying a 150 kg payload. It is typically equipped with large, anti-personnel warheads. The rocket has a length of 6.3 m, a body diameter of 0.302 m, and a launch weight of approximately 750 kg.33 The launcher features two layers of three firing tubes each.34 The Khaibar-1 is unguided but more accurate than most indigenous Hezbollah/Hamas rockets, and can be stored more easily due to increased durability. However, the rocket does not spin like the Fajr-5, and is therefore likely less accurate.Haaretz, July 9, 2014, https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.603957." title="" aria-describedby="qtip-34" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(7, 52, 74); transition: all 0.3s ease-in-out 0s; text-decoration-skip-ink: auto;">35

    The Khaibar-1 was first fired by Hezbollah on July 28, 2006, striking the city of Afula. Subsequent targets included Haifa, Hadera, and areas in the northern West Bank."
    https://missilethreat.csis.org/country/hezbollahs-rocket-arsenal/

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  11. Bluesguy

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    If it hit any explosive inside the building one big explosion.

    Why would the Israel's knowingly fire at a hospital knowing the political firestorm it would produce?
     
  12. Josh77

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    Do you have a link saying that it was used in this case? Anything that size would have been taken out by Israeli air strikes right from the start, if they had it in Gaza at all I would think.
     
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    Because many do not care. They want blood, innocent or otherwise. Someone who does care about the implications saw the tweet, and then it was taken down.
     
  14. Endeavor

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    This thread is interesting. There are people in America who will believe Palestinian government, aka HAMAS, aka a terrorist organization which killed countless innocent lives, which killed their own people to prove a point then Joe Biden, President of The USA that this accident/attack is not from Israel.
     
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    Mea culpa, I was not able to find the source.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    Any reasoned judgement would first question why the IDF would target a hospital of no military value but HIGH damage to their cause and efforts. Any reasoned judgement would look back at the history of such matters and see we are simply in the rinse and repeat of immediate blame Israel no matter how outlandish the claims. Any reasoned judgement would not NOT to take ANYTHING the Islamist terrorist say as truthful.

    What I was noting was your "well even if the Israeli's didn't do this they are STILL bad people" couching now that the evidence is pointing not at a targeted strike as you were asserting but failed missile launch by Hamas.





    Have you ever read, that we are no longer in the 19th century? Our species' worldwide form of government, has since, markedly changed, as have our sensibilities about war, as well as our weapons of war. The new rules were formed in 1949, after the barbaric, Second World War. The idea, was to not go back to repeat some of those atrocities.

    Also, it is almost humorous, that you would justify the Israeli blockade as a "wartime" development, when it has been ongoing for more than 15 years, so was already in place.

    Please peddle your garbage claims, elsewhere. If you hurry, I think you can still catch the train, back to the American Reconstruction era.
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    Nothing has change about a blockade being a legal action in war. The first thing you do is cut off your enemies supply lines, power generation capabilities, water supply, logistics etc etc to get them to surrender and END THE CONFLICT. I already cited international law.
     
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    People are free to believe whatever they want, but Israel has provided proof that it was a failed rocket launch from Gaza side, and the evidence has been shown to US officials who accepted it as legit, so that closes the case for me.

    Hamas can say what they wish, protesters can say what they wish, maga-stabbers can say what they wish but I'm cool with the official version.
     
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  18. Endeavor

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    My friend, if you have to talk about “ deleted tweet” to prove a war crime, you already lost your argument.
     
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  19. Josh77

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    What does that even mean? And I have talked about plenty of other stuff. The only reason I mentioned the tweet is because he mentioned the phone call. The fact that you are focusing on the tweet rather than the rest to try and prove this wasn't an Israeli airstrike shows you are ignorance all of the evidence it was not some little rocket.
     
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    So is Biden lying when he says the Hamas bombed their own hospital?
     
  21. Josh77

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    I doubt Biden even knows he is going to Israel. He moves in the direction his handlers point him in. Do you seriously consider Biden a good source of info for this?
     
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  22. Endeavor

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    POTUS is saying this is not done by Israel vs your “plenty of other stuff” which include deleted tweet.

    Surry , I will get on it and believe you over POTUS.
     
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    We shall see.
     
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    My statement about Israel and international law is amply supported by the historical record.
     
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    Pro HAMAS Palestinians and anti Israeli goons will repeat whatever HAMAS says just like MAGA- CULTISTS will repeat any lies and/or fantasies that cult leader Donny expels.
     
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