At Least 300 Dead In GAZA HOSPITAL BOMBING

Biden, in Tel Aviv, backs Israel’s claim of innocence on hospital blast

TEL AVIV — President Biden sent a clear signal on Wednesday that he agrees with Israel’s position that it was not responsible for the blast at a Gaza hospital that killed hundreds of people, making his comments during his audacious trip here that amounted to a dramatic display of support for Israel while the region is still engulfed in turmoil.

Biden, who did not specify what led him to that assessment, made his comments after the blast at the Gaza hospital threatened to derail his trip even before he left Washington. The president had planned to travel to Jordan to meet with Arab leaders after visiting Israel, but just as Air Force One started rolling down the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews outside Washington, White House officials alerted reporters that the Jordan visit was being scrapped amid rage and grief in the Arab world over the tragedy.

Shortly after landing in Israel, Biden, while meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said he was “deeply saddened and outraged” by the devastation at the hospital. “Based on what I’ve seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you,” Biden added. . . . .

 

If Biden developed. cures to all types of deadly diseases that saved all the children everywhere and announced it in the evening you obviously would criticize him for not announcing it first thing in the morning. You seem irritated that Biden is still breathing on his own. Your opinion about Biden is apparently tainted and the same as MAGA Don’s is about anyone he dislikes or fears.

 

Whomever is responsible, this conflict just got a whole lot worse

 

it was a question. Someone claimed that Hamas is not supported by most of the Palestinians so I asked-IF NOT then why does Hamas control the area. I don't know if most support Hamas if not.

 

Do you think Biden came to this conclusion on his own, or his team informed him?

 

this seems to be the best analogy

 

The Palestinians failing to remove HAMAS is the same as the failure of the Russian people to remove their monster Putin. So yes Palestinians and Russians are at fault for their own monsters.

 

Saddam was an Sunni-Arab, while only 15% of Iraqis were Sunni-Arabs, so why did he control Iraq so long? Answer: there was nothing they could do about it.

I have not seen recent polls about what percentage of Gazans support Hamas, but I know their approval numbers are like a roller coaster depending on what is going on at any given time, but let's assume (for the sake of the argument) most Gazans did NOT support them, there would be very little they could do about it. Its not like they can vote them out, because there are no elections. Fatah tried to take them out by force, and lost the fight.

 

I don't dislike Biden, I just think he is incredibly ineffective as president, way too old and senile for the job. Trump I definitely dislike. He may be more aware than Biden, but definitely not what I want in a President. But this discussion about presidents is getting way off topic.

 

If he's speaking off the cuff, no. If he's reading from a teleprompter like his handlers have him do 95% of the time for fear of him going off script, yes.

 

I'm sure they informed him, and I doubt they have any data except that which Israel fed them. And even if they did have more, we don't know what further political agendas are being served by promoting a certain point of view. I don't think we have enough data to say for sure what happened, but I would say it is leaning heavily toward an Israeli airstrike over a Hamas rocket. Hopefully good independent reporting can dig down to the truth without being corrupted from Israeli or Hamas propaganda.

 

Here is a picture of what appears to be where the rocket landed? How did this kill the alleged 500 people?



https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/what-we-know-about-the-gaza-hospital-blast-b238a40d

Here is video including inside the hospital where there is no apparent fire or blast damage just empty beds.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/is...-hospital-compound-blast-mmFVg7Pa5PkKxZyHbtRX

 

Except you aren’t targeting the hospital. You’re targeting the military assets which are illegally inside a hospital.

You and others like you are making an argument that if a terrorist hides behind civilians they are immune from harm. That is patently ridiculous and you are incentivizing every terrorist to strap babies on their backs and house all their soldiers and generals inside of civilian buildings.

tell me: how exactly would you then wage war on Hamas?

Guess in your world hiding behind civilians is an auto win and all the other side can do is play defense. How ridiculous.

Israel even goes above and beyond to minimize civilian casualties, likewise hurting its war effort by likewise warning Hamas where its bombs are going to strike.

people like you not only want Hamas invulnerable from harm, you also want Israel to feed and water their enemies. Holy F is that nuts.

again, would love to see how you’d wage war on Hamas without killing civilians. Go ahead, give it your best shot

 

The purpose of the “team “ of any POTUS is to bring known facts and provide technical expertise counsel to a POTUS and the POTUS decides what the course of action to take. This does not work with the Trumpocity becouse Donny Boychick thinks he knows all and can do no wrong.

 

This thread should be submitted to sociologists as a case study in cognitive dissonance. The people who were using this propaganda to further their anti-Israel political agenda are spiriling in the worst ways trying to justify their mistake.

 

If that is the impact crater, then I think the entire story is fabricated.

 

Don’t you know? If a Palestinian official(aka HAMAS) says so it’s the truth. Yeah no blown up hospital. A small crater(hard to call it that. That’s a pothole in Louisiana and Colorado).

 

The Israelis already said (from very early on) that the only visible impact was in a parking lot.

 

They have , from what I understand, video evidence of the rocket leaving Gaza and then fizzling out and falling onto the hospital time stamped with the incident.

 

Nothing (yet) from Bellingcat.

link:

https://www.bellingcat.com/

 

Great, thanks for sharing that with us lol.

 

Actually, Israel told people in Gaza to leave the city before the first strikes. I was glued to a news channel, so please don't tell me about windows and assurances. Then, they were given an additional 24 hours. It's a lot more than the total lack of forewarning given to slain and injured Israelis on October 7th.

Supplies will enter Gaza as soon as Hamas releases the hostages. Not a second earlier.

 

Nothing entirely clear yet, but with the evidence so far from the ground it is moving in a certain direction.
https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1714535497958334678

 

Let's assume for a moment that Israel did indeed strike the hospital....

So what?

What? Was that cold? Callous? Despicable? And many other derogatory things you can think of?

Here's the thing that people don't seem to understand. When you are fighting a "war" you do not, I repeat, YOU DO NOT care about your enemies. Be they civilian or not. The point of a war is to overpower your enemy to such a degree that you get them to surrender at the best outcome. Wipe them out at the worst outcome. And you do it until there is absolutely no more resistance. Why do you think the Atom Bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It was to scare and hurt the enemy so bad that they would no longer put up any resistance. And it worked. It worked so well that Japan hasn't even thought of trying to go to war with anyone since. This is something that people have forgotten. War is hell. Its meant to be. So that we try and avoid it. It is one reason why People will put up with a Police State for years or decades or even centuries before they have had enough and commit to a war.

Don't get me wrong. I'm against war period. But if you're going to conduct a war....then conduct WAR. Not what I would consider "police actions". And by that I mean "only going after the bad guys". I want the war ended quickly as in the long run that will actually save the lives of your comrades far more than a protracted years long "police action".

 

Why do you think you can speak for the majority of Israelis?