At Least 300 Dead In GAZA HOSPITAL BOMBING

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    The new NYT article, saying that the explosion in the sky seen in the video was over Israeli land, was released on 24th October after your 17th October retraction
     
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    Oct 7th wasn't done by "Muslims".
    And you say this all the time while you know I support international law and have not proved that what Hamas was not according to international law.
    While I proved Israel violates international law, and commits war crimes... and that's where you refuse to condemn specifically Israel for doing so.
     
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    I don't think the continual bombing and ever increasing settlements building helps towards a peace agreement
     
  4. Endeavor

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    It’s not war crime to fight back.

    Rocket & Mortar Attacks Against Israel by Date (jewishvirtuallibrary.org)

    Here is HAMAS’s attack on Israel this year. Since Oct 7 Hamas fired over 7000 rocket in Israel.


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    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...-more-settlement-units-in-occupied-west-bank/
    Israel to build in occupied West Bank, 2010

    https://imemc.org/article/israel-approves-plan-to-expand-colonies-in-occupied-west-bank/
    Israel Approves Plan To Expand Colonies, 2011

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...erusalem/00000183-31dd-d1b7-a79f-77ffcf430000
    Israel Presses Forward With Plan to Expand West Bank, 2022

    https://imemc.org/article/israeli-approves-massive-colony-expansion/
    Israeli Approves Massive Colony Expansion, 2023


    Israel violently oppresses Palestine, and endlessly is busy to expand their fascist Jew only colonies beyond their borders. It's a war crime. And Hamas is a product of this Jewish theme. And Israel makes an other war crime by indiscriminately targeting civilians, and disproportionally destroying their properties. And by just mentioning "it's not a war crime to fight back" you're just never minding where Israel does make it's war crimes.
     
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  6. Endeavor

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    Peace ? what Peace ? there is no Peace in ME. I support Israel but I am the first one to admit they don’t want peace. They want every inch of land in Palestine.

    But same goes to Palestinian people. They don’t want peace with Israel. Palestinian people along with Arabs , they will not have peace with Jews. They want complete destruction of Israel and Jews.

    Anyone from outside thinks they can bring peace between Jews and Muslims has no clue about the culture or animosity between the two.
     
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    the article on OCT 25 from your post Hindustantimes is not NYT.
     
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    Laughable.

    ALL Islamists are Muslims. That includes the Islamist Muslims in Hamas who were responsible for Oct 7th, their Islamist Muslim cousins in Hezbollah and their Islamist Muslim masters/benefactors in the Islamic Republic of Iran. That also includes the Islamist Muslims in al Qaeda, the Islamic State/ISIS and the granddaddy of them all, the Muslim Brotherhood.

    No soup for you, muchacho....
     
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    Indeed. It's the 24th, and behind a pay wall. So your retraction is still not related to that.
     
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    Not all Muslims are part of that. Your use of Muslims is therefor discriminating.
     
  11. Endeavor

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    As I wrote Israel wants every inch of Palestine for themselves. Let’s see who stop them. USA stand with Israel. Let’s see who stand against US Military Might.
     
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    In another word nothing.
     
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    I am yet to see any Muslim , the follower of “ religion of Peace” condemn Hamas for firing 7000 + rocket toward Israel in last 14 days.
     
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    I don't support the settlements or expanding them, but please point to the part of the Oslo Accords which says Israel cannot build more housing for settlers.
     
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    You put up that retraction and it was on the 23rd. The NYT article is from the 24th.
    So the retraction is not about the 24th. And when you can see one article behind the paywall, it means you can also see the other.
     
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67177684

    I have yet to see a western government condemning the massacre the Jewish state is doing.
     
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    Why should I do that when I didn't mention the Oslo Accords, who are nill and void anyways.
    And by inserting the Oslo Accords, you're deliberately avoiding to label what Israel does as war crime and condemning them as such.
    You're just deflecting away.
     
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  18. Endeavor

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    Western government support Israel. As you see Joe Biden stand by Israel without any reservation. Nothing to condemn.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    Apart from the war crimes, as in deliberately depriving 2 million people from food, clear water, and medical aid....
    While the massive destruction of the civilian houses seems to be totally without any kind of proportion and without any kind of military advantage... and so it's a also a war crime.

    Not to mention their endless idea's to enlarge their colonies,... also a war crime.

    Plenty of things to condemn and not stand with Israel.
     
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    As soon as Hamas complies with the requirements of the Quartet, the embargo will end.
     
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    You appear to find this justified, and so you support what Israel does which is a war crime. And so you're a supporter of war crimes. Some moral high ground this is on Hamas.
     
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    I do not support war crimes. Do not make such slander against me again.
     
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    Ok I finally read the article. Again this article never says NYT stand by their report that Israel bombed the hospital.

    This is from the article


    The video shows a projectile streaking through the darkened skies over Gaza and exploding in the air. Seconds later, another explosion is seen on the ground.

    The footage has become a widely cited piece of evidence as Israeli and American officials have made the case that an errant Palestinian rocket malfunctioned in the sky, fell to the ground and caused a deadly explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City.

    But a detailed visual analysis by The New York Times concludes that the video clip — taken from an Al Jazeera television camera livestreaming on the night of Oct. 17 — shows something else. The missile seen in the video is most likely not what caused the explosion at the hospital. It actually detonated in the sky roughly two miles away, The Times found, and is an unrelated aspect of the fighting that unfolded over the Israeli-Gaza border that night.

    The Times’s finding does not answer what actually did cause the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital blast, or who is responsible. The contention by Israeli and American intelligence agencies that a failed Palestinian rocket launch is to blame remains plausible. But the Times analysis does cast doubt on one of the most-publicized pieces of evidence that Israeli officials have used to make their case and complicates the straightforward narrative they have put forth.
     
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    You know , if this is so bad in GAZA , they can leave. Israel telling Palestinians to leave GAZA. Israel has been telling Palestinian to leave , but they want to stay there.

    And all the “ religion of peace” Muslim they want to kill Israel but they don’t want to take a single Palestinian in their own country.
     

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