Atheists Nativity scene?

Well, you know I don't believe Adam and Eve lived in Eden (depending on how you define it), but I'll entertain the thought. You might have tell me exactly what trees you believe were there, but yes, there were trees.

If it doesn't matter what kind of tree it is, does it matter if it's a tree at all? Besides when did you see anyone have a non-spruce Christmas tree? Other than those ironic Christmas-palms or obvious make-due-with-what-you've-gots.

The Christmas tree is an adaptation from a pagan thing. Trees that stay green over winter symbolizes surviving through winter.

Besides, wasn't it you who thought that atheists shouldn't celebrate Valentine's day because it was started by a Christian? Well, Christmas trees were started by pagans. Make what you will of that.

 

Swensson,, I think you'll find Christmas trees are a relatively new thing,, only a couple of hundred years old. I believe the idea came out of Christian Germany.

Up until the 9th century, Roman Catholics celebrated the Christ Mass on the 25th of December, which at the time had nothing to do with Christ's birth. It also roughly coincided with the Winter Solstice. The Pope at the time then included celebrating Christ's birth as opposed to Christ's birthday during the Christ Mass.

Celebrating on or around the 25th December goes back to ancient Roman days when the Winter Solstice was celebrated. Mithras, the soldier's religion celebrated 12 days and nights of eating, drinking and orgying during the Winter Solstice.

BTW,, the term "pagan" comes from ancient Latin, from the word paganus, meaning rural dweller.

 

I have no problem with that. Paganism and traditions thereof were still present in European culture well into the 19th century. Well, it still is, but nowadays, it's been combined with other traditions and they aren't really seen as pagan even though it's origins might have been.

This was long before commoners writing or blogging, you didn't write down everything that happened, and even less those things that were traditions and had "always" been around and therefore seemed obvious. There are legends (there isn't really enough evidence though) about Christmas trees from the middle ages that even more play on the more nature centred pagan beliefs. And in the end, dancing around a decorated tree with fake apples seems more pagan than Christian to me.

Is this supposed to be referring to the Christmas tree?

Uhm, ok, thanks for the trivia, I guess.

 

Nope, more about the origins of Christmas. Possibly, it should have been better made in a separate post..

 

Its own individual segment of time.

Well, hey... that is what personal opinion is all about.

 

That is not my quote, though it links to my post.

 

The Yule celebration existed in Northern Europe well before the arrival of the Romans or Christianity. Yule includes solstice feasting, Yule logs, and even your Christmas ham is a remnant of the Yule Boar. The Christmas festival was overlaid on Yule some time after the Julian calendar was introduced in AD 45. This was the Roman Empire mo, which absorbed local Gods into their overarching belief system as the empire extended.

 

My apologies. It seems that I forgot to reset my cache before performing the paste function. I hereby amend that posting and making it known that I erred and cross matched two distinctly different contributors. I hereby ask that the moderators adjust that post in question by deleting that segment which is in error.

 

Exactly why I chose the 'chickabunny'. More appropriate for the evolution thing.

 

This thread was so retarded, it wasn't even funny

 

Yeah... it kinda reminds me of some that have been posted in the past by Atheists and other non-theists.

 

It's full of the garbled magical thinking of which only a theist is capable.

 

We already have the Cadbury bunny. He represents the human concept of deliciousness. Also rapes chickens.

 

Not quite the concept I had in mind, but hey if you would prefer to have the Atheist view of Easter or have your children scampering around the yard in search of the offspring of such an image, then that is your privilege. Hope your children grow up with a better view of life after that being explained to them.

 

Well how else do you think the Cadbury Bunny makes those delicious eggs? Clearly a chicken must be involved.

 

Well, like I said, I do hope your children receive a quality education being handed down from your mind.

 

What's the atheist view of Easter? Don't you just mean any non-Christian view?

 

Easter also originated in non-Christian celebrations.

Easter, or to give it its Germanic name Ostre (after the Germanic godess of the harvest and new beingings, Ostre) had been celebrted in northern German for thousands of years. It was held in late March/early April to assure a bountiful harvest next autumn. Painted hen eggs were given to children as a symbol of new beginnings and good will.

As Christianity crawled through Europe 1600 years ago, Ostre was adapted into Christianity.

 

We arent discussing the easter bunny. Stop the bull**** !

 

What BS are you referring to, or are you feeling challenged?

The rabbit and hare had been the symbol of fertility in many ancient civilisations in Europe, including Germanic groups. Which stems back to the time of Ostre. Have you herd the term, "Breeding like rabbits"?

 

Riiiiight. I offer historrical fact, you offer a silly attempt at rebuttal.

1/10 - Must try harder.

 

Easter has nothing to do with rabbits and painted eggs. get over it already.

 

Easter (Old English: Ēostre; Greek: Πάσχα, Paskha; Aramaic: פֶּסחא‎ Pasḥa; from Hebrew: פֶּסַח‎ Pesa&#7717 is the central feast in the Christian liturgical year.[1] According to the Canonical gospels, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion. His resurrection is celebrated on Easter Day or Easter Sunday[2] (also Resurrection Day or Resurrection Sunday). The chronology of his death and resurrection is variously interpreted to have occurred between AD 26 and 36.

Easter marks the end of Lent, a forty-day period of fasting, prayer, and penance. The last week of the Lent is called Holy Week, and it contains Good Friday, commemorating the crucifixion and death of Jesus. Easter is followed by a fifty-day period called Eastertide or the Easter Season, ending with Pentecost Sunday.

 

Are you sure?

Google Image search "Easter".

 

Therefore Santa has nothing to do with Christmas.