Austin Warns Congress Failing to Pass Ukraine Aid ‘Very Likely’ Leads to US Troops on the Ground In

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  1. AARguy

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    Military folks are taught to be flexible and ready for anything. Civilians do rote things over and over, but as GEN Norman Schwartzkopf once said..

    War is like a ballet. You plan and practice... practice... practice. You have a full up dress rehearsal so that everyone knows exactly what to do. Then, opening night everything is ready. The curtain goes up and the action begins.

    Suddenly a guy with a bayonet jumps out of the orchestra pit and starts stabbing everyone.

    Soldiers must always be ready for the unexpected.

    GO ARMY!! BEAT NAVY!!
     
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    The subject was your self proclaimed expertise about a complex subject you know nothing about.


    GO ARMY!! BEAT NAVY!!
     
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    slava ukie, right D?

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    Slava Ukraine and God bless America, both lands of freedom and not of fascists who invade neighboring countries under false, hypocritical pretenses.
     
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    Well...wrong AARGUY....Ukraine was conquered and absorbed....try history.

    The big deal...??

    It will be a big deal when Putler tries another adventure.....you'll be back here advocating for Estonia to be negotiated....because "who cares" ...right?
     
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    Those look like Charlottesville Bill....you post it often....is that a Screensaver on your device by chance?
     
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    Utkin looks like Joe Rogan...20 yrs older.....LOL.
     
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    Why wouldn't he show?
     
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    Another 1000+ orcs cashed it in today Bill....how's the 3 day op?
     
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    Looks like En Esch getting buggered.
     
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    Yes, Ukraine was absorbed long ago. I never said it wasn't. More recently it declared its own independence. So?

    Ukraine is NOT NATO. Estonia is NATO. Russia can't even defeat Ukraine operating all on its own. Attacking NATO would get Russia clobbered... and they know it.
     
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    Lloyd is controversial. His presence at the reunion could lead to serious disruption of the proceedings. I often think about what could happen... but its all speculation.
     
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    Lots are controversial AARguy....doesn't mean he won't show.
     
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    If Mafiosi managed to absorb Ukraine again....the pocket chimp has millions more bodies to toss at NATO.
     
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    Yep, and he would do it, too. He knows how weak and divided we are with people like AARguy, Misha and others taking Putler's nuclear threats seriously. Putler would bank on NATO falling apart and letting him have eastern Europe without a fight.
     
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    I understand Finland had a sizeable RuZZki population once....around 1939-40?

    Around 600K?.....I understand they're all 6 ft under?:roflol:
     
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    I'm not saying he will or won't. Depends on how the PR guys feel about getting his classmates booing him or turning their backs into the news.
     
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    Putin’s military strategy ‘at the whim’ of Russian military bloggers | Frontline
     
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    Putinka desires Eastern Europe...he needs bodies. RuZZkis aren't multiplying....the educated ones are fleeing to the "cursed" West....he's blowing through the "trailer trash" from Far East & Siberia.....the Buryats,Kalmyks, Tuvans,Chechens, Chuvash,Circissians,etc are getting slaughtered in Ukraine leaving Siberia wide open to Chino exploitation(its happening as we speak), ....Putler detests these states going independent and considers it an affront personally.

    East/West Germany uniting was significantly disappointing for Putinka I suspect....that was his life that was sucked outta him.

    Many RuZZkis still feel it was a mistake that Germany re unified.....and feel that 30 million dead was all for not.
     
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    It's like a zombie invasion. The further they advance, the more their numbers swell. It's monstrous how they are forcing Ukrainians in the occupied regions to accept Z citizenship and then forcing them to the front to fight their own, and they will do this anywhere else they are able to invade and hold territory.
     
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    Pretty much....well indoctrinated "zheks".
     
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    Trump tried, but apparently the DoD felt free to ignore his orders. Rather troubling for the old idea of civilian control of the military.

    Retiring diplomat says defense officials misled Trump on troop count in Syria

    WASHINGTON — US defense officials routinely misled President Trump into believing the American troop count in Syria was a lot lower than it actually is, a retiring US diplomat said in a bombshell interview this week.

    “We were always playing shell games to not make clear to our leadership how many troops we had there,” James Jeffrey, US special representative for Syria engagement, said in an interview with Defense One.

    In October 2019, Trump ordered the withdrawal of US troops from northern Syria — a decision controversial among lawmakers, defense officials and diplomats.

    Pentagon officials convinced the president to leave approximately 200 troops behind to protect oil fields in the country’s east that were at risk of falling under ISIS control, Jeffrey said.

    However, the real number of troops in northeast Syria is “a lot more than” the 200 Trump agreed to leave behind, Jeffrey said, with some officials putting the number as high as 900.
     
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    I've always been against getting into this except possibly to negotiate a peace (if we had anyone in this administration skilled enough to do that, which we don't). I've also felt that if Ukraine meant so much to us, why aren't the folks in charge going all in, boots on the ground, etc.? Of course the answer to that is simple. Because the politicians understood that the American people wouldn't stand for sending their children to fight the Russians, and they'd be out of a job come election time. So they just threw money at it. And now it would just be a waste to throw more at it. Good money after bad.
     
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    Yes. But who will do it? The American authorities, judging by the relatives of the president, live in a parallel cocaine universe.
     
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    Don't read Western media, it's bad for the brain. Russians have already expanded their territory into five new regions (the five most economically developed and important regions). So, don't worry about the Russians. They're doing great.

    As for Afghanistan, you can look at how the Russians left Afghanistan (Najibullah's regime, by the way, lasted three more years after the Russians left) and compare that to how the US and NATO countries fled Afghanistan.
     

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