Biden administration endorses transgender youth sex-change operations, 'top surgery,' hormone therap

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  1. Joe knows

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    Life altering decisions like this can not be reasonably made by a child period. If they were that intelligent about choices and harm it may cause their body you may as well allow them to drink their mind away as well
     
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    Absolutely and they are pushing them and encouraging them in these decisions. Telling white males they are excrement but if they want they can be cool hip and transition to the victim class!
     
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    Not really. The links below can give a broad overview. Basicially in a nutshell, if there are treatment options, the the thought and attempted suicide rates will drop significantly compared if there are no treatment options. This is not the old adage "suck it up like a man" anymore. Suicide, thought of, attempted, and succeeded among Transgender youth is about as bad as veterans with PTSD and other ailments. Neither is good and both should be treated vigorously by the medical communnity without or little interference from government.

    https://www.hrc.org/news/new-study-reveals-shocking-rates-of-attempted-suicide-among-trans-adolescen

    https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...uicide-risk-trans-youths-study-finds-rcna8617

    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...uth-cut-rates-of-depression-suicidal-thoughts
     
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    No one is pushing anyone into treatment. No one. That is the lie the right tries to use to justify their decisions on this. This is not the Lynchburg Colony anymore or any other historical reference you can come up with.
     
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    That's why there are doctor's and parents. Let them make the decision. Is that hard to grasp?
     
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    Are they confused or are you confused? Because I don’t even think you know what GCS stands for. I ask this question because I genuinely think you don’t know anything about trans people.

    Have you ever talked to trans people about their medical transition and what it’s like? Because honestly the way you’re posting I don’t think you have.

    i prefer thinking of it more like an action but yes.

    Kids… are between 5-10. Tweens are 11-13. Teens are 13-18. We use words to mean things. Use the right words you get the right results.

    I already answered the question- sexism. And remeber that cuts both ways assuming you’re right. Cis kids wouldn’t know either so why shouldn’t they be allowed to wait either? Honestly what you’re saying is an argument for universal hormonal blockers.

    i mean, I don’t really think they get it. I don’t think any of them have ever talked to trans people about a trans persons medical transition before.
     
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    If you think that NY and Ca should protect their interests vs the feds then then you should have no problem with Florida, Texas, and others doing it now. The bottom line is that there is no one size fits all mandate to be handed down from the federal government on high that everyone is going to accept. Thus the federalist system we have and the states as the laboratories of democracy. To stay United as a nation we must weaken the power of the federal government to enumerated powers of the constitution as amended including the 9th and 10th and let the states and the people including county and city government do likewise with our powers.
     
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    Bull[​IMG]

    20 years ago this was not even on the minds of these kids. Now it is front and center in their face. Kids cannot even just be gay any longer. A value judgement has been made, trans is cool and hip and better. A Florida teacher bragging how she has 2 "queer" children. Her words. She socialized her kids to be that way it is not biological and it sure in the hell is nothing like a diabetic needing insulin.
     
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    Remember when ‘today we are all Muslim?’ Then it was all about gays, then it was all about women. Then the left doubled down and it was all about women survivors. Now it’s all about T people. And, of course, it always about blacks.

    What group will the left pander to next?
     
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    Yep that's normal. o_ORaising kids, teaching them to be gay or trans or whatever.

     
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    I can't tell ya that, but I can tell ya which group they WON'T pander too...lol
     
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    LMAO!
     
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    Biological dead ends
     
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    And how do you describe circumcision?

    This is not the Democratic Party's initiative: it is the consensus opinion of the medical community.

    The medical research indicates that this path leads to much happier, better adjusted people, with far fewer suicide attempts & mental health issues, and much less substance abuse, and depression.

    It is the resource of doctors, precisely, upon which this document is based.


    I'm certainly open, however, to looking at the research on this subject, done by any of you, or other thread respondents.

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    Gender-affirming care is a supportive form of healthcare. It consists of
    an array of services that may include medical, surgical, mental health,
    and non-medical services for transgender and nonbinary people.
    For transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents, early gender-
    affirming care is crucial to overall health and well-being as it allows the
    child or adolescent to focus on social transitions and can increase their
    confidence while navigating the healthcare system.

    Research demonstrates that gender-affirming care improves the mental
    health and overall well-being of gender diverse children and
    adolescents.
    1 Because gender-affirming care encompasses many facets
    of healthcare needs and support, it has been shown to increase positive
    outcomes for transgender and nonbinary children and adolescents.
    Gender-affirming care is patient-centered and treats individuals
    holistically, aligning their outward, physical traits with their gender
    identity.
    Gender diverse adolescents, in particular, face significant health
    disparities compared to their cisgender peers. Transgender and gender
    nonbinary adolescents are at
    increased risk for mental health issues,

    substance use, and suicide.2
    ,
    3 The Trevor Project’s 2021 National
    Survey on LGBTQ Youth Mental Health found that 52 percent of LGBTQ
    youth seriously considered attempting suicide in the past year.4
    A safe and affirming healthcare environment is critical in fostering better
    outcomes for transgender, nonbinary, and other gender expansive
    children and adolescents. Medical and psychosocial gender affirming
    healthcare practices have been demonstrated to yield lower rates of

    adverse mental health outcomes, build self-esteem, and improve overall quality of life for transgender and

    gender diverse youth.5,6 Familial and peer support is also crucial in fostering similarly positive outcomes for
    these populations. Presence of affirming support networks is critical for facilitating and arranging gender
    affirming care for children and adolescents. Lack of such support can result in rejection, depression and
    suicide, homelessness, and other negative outcomes.7,8,9


    What is gender-affirming care?
    Why does it matter?
    Common Terms:
    (in alphabetical order)
    Cisgender: Describes a person
    whose gender identity aligns with
    their sex assigned at birth.
    Gender diverse or expansive: An
    umbrella term for a person with a
    gender identity and/or expression
    broader than the male or female
    binary. Gender minority is also used
    interchangeably with this term.
    Gender dysphoria: Clinically
    significant distress that a person may
    feel when sex or gender assigned at
    birth is not the same as their identity.
    Gender identity: One’s internal
    sense of self as man, woman, both
    or neither.
    Nonbinary: Describes a person who
    does not identify with the man or
    woman gender binary.
    Transgender: Describes a person
    whose gender identity and or
    expression is different from their sex
    assigned at birth, and societal and
    cultural expectations around sex.


    Additional Information
    • Endocrine Treatment of Gender-Dysphoric/Gender-Incongruent Persons: An Endocrine Society Clinical
    Practice Guideline
    • Ensuring Comprehensive Care and Support for Transgender and Gender-Diverse Children and
    Adolescents | American Academy of Pediatrics
    • Standards of Care (SOC) for the Health of Transsexual, Transgender, and Gender Nonconforming People

    Resources
    • Discrimination on the Basis of Sex | HHS Office of Civil Rights
    • Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Health | Healthy People 2030
    • Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Health: Health Services | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    • National Institutes of Health Sexual & Gender Minority Research Office
    • Family Support: Resources for Families of Transgender & Gender Diverse Children | Movement Advancement Project
    • Five Things to Know About Gender-Affirming Health Care | ACLU
    • Gender-Affirming Care is Trauma-Informed Care | The National Child Traumatic Stress Network
    • Gender-Affirming Care Saves Lives | Columbia University
    • Gender Identity | The Trevor Project
    • Genderspectrum.org
    • Glossary of Terms | Human Rights Campaign
    • Health Care for Transgender and Gender Diverse Individuals | ACOG
    • Transgender and Gender Diverse Children and Adolescents | Endocrine Society
    1 Green, A. E., DeChants, J. P., Price, M. N., & Davis, C. K. (2021). Association of Gender-Affirming Hormone Therapy With Depression, Thoughts
    of Suicide, and Attempted Suicide Among Transgender and Nonbinary Youth. Journal of Adolescent Health, 70(4).
    https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jadohealth.2021.10.036 2 Rimes, K., Goodship N., Ussher, G., Baker, D. and West, E. (2019). Non-binary and binary transgender youth: Comparison of mental health, self-
    harm, suicidality, substance use and victimization experiences. International Journal of Transgenderism, 20 (2-3); 230-240. 3 Price-Feeney, M., Green, A. E., & Dorison, S. (2020). Understanding the mental health of transgender and nonbinary youth. Journal of Adolescent
    Health, 66(6), 684–690. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jadohealth.2019.11.314 4 Trevor Project. (2021). National Survey on LGBTQ Youth Mental Health 2021. Trevor Project. https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2021/. 5 Wagner J, Sackett-Taylor AC, Hodax JK, Forcier M, Rafferty J. (2019). Psychosocial Overview of Gender-Affirmative Care. Journal of pediatric and
    adolescent gynecology, (6):567-573. doi: 10.1016/j.jpag.2019.05.004. Epub 2019 May 17. PMID: 31103711. 6 Hughto JMW, Gunn HA, Rood BA, Pantalone DW. (2020). Social and Medical Gender Affirmation Experiences Are Inversely Associated with Mental
    Health Problems in a U.S. Non-Probability Sample of Transgender Adults. Archives of sexual behavior, 49(7):2635-2647. doi: 10.1007/s10508-020-
    01655-5. Epub 2020 Mar 25. PMID: 32215775; PMCID: PMC7494544. 7 Brown, C., Porta, C. M., Eisenberg, M. E., McMorris, B. J., & Sieving, R. E. (2020). Family relationships and the health and well-being of transgender
    and gender-diverse youth: A critical review. LGBT Health, 7, 407-419. https://doi.org/10.1089/lgbt.2019.0200 8 Seibel BL, de Brito Silva B, Fontanari AMV, Catelan RF, Bercht AM, Stucky JL, DeSousa DA, Cerqueira-Santos E, Nardi HC, Koller SH, Costa AB.
    (2018). The Impact of the Parental Support on Risk Factors in the Process of Gender Affirmation of Transgender and Gender Diverse People. Front
    Psychol, 27;9:399. doi: 10.3389/fpsyg.2018.00399. Erratum in: Front Psychol. 2018 Oct 12;9:1969. PMID: 29651262; PMCID: PMC5885980. 9 Sievert ED, Schweizer K, Barkmann C, Fahrenkrug S, Becker-Hebly I. (2021). Not social transition status, but peer relations and family functioning
    predict psychological functioning in a German clinical sample of children with Gender Dysphoria. Clin Child Psychol Psychiatry, 26(1):79-95. doi:
     
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    Never said it was easy. And I don't care. I will NEVER condone plastic surgery on children. Period. And don't try and tell me that they're not pushing for it. The OP proves that they are.
     
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    What pings ME off is what harm does it do? Honestly? Bathrooms? Well nearly every disabled toilet here is unisex. So……… are they hesitant to use a unisex toilet??
     
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    Bull ****. Your sophistry means nothing. "Kids" is a generalized term for anyone under the age of 18 or refers to offspring. My kids will STILL be my kids even when they are legally considered adults. But as far as this thread goes and its topic "kids" refers to anyone 17 and younger. IE: Someone that is not considered an adult. All you're attempting to do with your sophistry is to blur the lines in order to make it "OK" to perform plastic surgery on kids.
     
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    The OP never proved anything. The OP posted an opinionated piece based inaccurate information and gross, erroneous assuptions.

    And I don't care what you think or condone. What I am concerned is making your viewpoint policy and directed to others that are not your children.
     
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    Really???

    This kid was getting bullied for his ears

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    https://www.macleans.ca/society/life/where-do-parents-draw-the-line/

    Compared to this
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    A person in a costume does not make reality
     
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    Oh! Wow! Release the Kraken! There are kids who are allowed to be what they want to beeeee!!

    And this is your problem - why??
     
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    They are being steered towards biological dead end choices to placate their parent's dead end choices at an early age when they are both impressionable and malleable.

    It's pretty much child abuse.
     
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    No it’s a twit in a ****
     

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