Biden administration is canceling $1.2 billion in student-loan debt for 153,000 borrowers

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Steve N, Feb 21, 2024.

  1. mudman

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    Paying off loans isn't educating people. They've already wasted their education. You're talking about two completely different things here. You're trying to use one to justify your original comment about the other.

    And you are equating education with schooling and that is also completely false....as these worthless degrees people are getting illustrate.

    Having qualified and trained plumbers, electricians, welders, etc is not the sign of a failed nation. Having people with $50k in student loans while working at starbucks because their degree is useless is, however, a sign of a failed nation.
     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    If you don't help people, it's only natural they won't vote for you.

    Republicans lose elections, and they haven't figured this out.

    Duh.
     
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    well the democrat mantra is taking the money of a minority voting bloc and buying the votes of a majority bloc. A good way to win elections but also a great way of destroying the country.
     
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    Nope, doesn't negate the fact that their vote buying.
     
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    Except they aren't paying anything.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    That was horrible when he let people keep more of their own hard-earned money. What a terrible thing that was. We need the government taking more of other people's money so they can redistribute it....
     
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    So the government's just going to pull the money out of thin air?
     
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    Yes paying for the post office, military, repairing infrastructure, etc is a waste of money.
     
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    Once people have paid their taxes its no longer their money.
     
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    According to you they're not paying anything. So where's the government going to get the money?

    Just defecated out of a magical orifice?
     
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    And don't forget the billions for Ukraine and all the illegals flooding over our border.

    And let's not forget the other Democrat special interest vote buying programs.
     
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    It is our money and the government works for us so like any good boss I want to know how it is spent and who it goes to.
     
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    Ah, so paying off school loans with taxpayer money is paying for post offices, military, infrastructure and ect..

    They can't even pay off a loan and they do all that above LMFAO..
     
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    According to him you must just give it to the government and once you give it to them you have absolutely zero say, that's almost like he doesn't understand that there is a contract between the people and the government and they are expected to do certain things with our taxes.

    It seems I've heard about some quarrels being started over taxation without representation.... I can't quite remember when it was though....hmm...
     
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    Yes, from the ground up

    I don’t have an issue with drag queen story hours after school as long as the parents consent.

    Gender studies and CRT are fine as electives in post secondary level coursework
     
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    They are different issues, I never attempted to conflate them. I simply stated I think education, especially core education, should be no cost to the end user.

    I am not, the issue is the government has gotten involved and made it where students cannot bankrupt these loans — and they give the loans out without much of an approval process. We have 17-19 year olds taking on debt that will follow them for their lives and we are seeing the impacts of that with delays in starting families or purchasing homes.

    A trade school is a form of education.
     
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    Depends on your definition of “help”. Some people consider saving your kids from failure over and over again as HELPFUL. Others understand that as ultimately damaging and setting them up for repeated failure. Some people think giving people something they never earned or don’t deserve is helping them. Others see it as a handout. Some people think patting someone on the back over and over again helps even when they screw up is helping. Others see it as failing upwards. Some people think participation trophies helps people. Others understand that as boosting unearned self esteem. You’re REWARDING mediocrity and even lack of effort.

    In politics, GIVING people money is BUYING votes. You’re not helping ****. We all know it. Sadly some people like free money, because they’re too stupid to understand NOTHING is free. But as long as they vote how you TELL them to, you’ll keep giving them more free ****. Sadly that’s called destroying the nation and some of YOU PEOPLE think that’s helping everyone:) And those people doing it on purpose are evil SOBs who don’t really give a crap about anyone except themselves.
     
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    Public schools don't teach that.
    Perhaps MAGA pvt schools are the ones that teach that if you really believe they are doing so.
     
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    Your parents and your educators failure for you is not my problem.
     
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    What is Trump offering in exchange for votes. Please be specific.

    What has been hateful? The pressing of agenda and policy you disagree with? The "he is mean" is pretty much the only complaint the opposition has.

    Oh, I remember hearing this Chicken Little the sky is falling claims the last time. None of which came true.

    Irony.

    Says the person so focused on Orange Man Bad to see the threat with buying votes from the treasury. That doesn't make any logical sense.
     
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    Sure they do, people just want to NOT believe it :)
     
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    So you don't understand that we have these elected representatives called congress that we choose to spend the money paid in taxes on things.
     
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    That doesn't surprise me. This is the second payoff of student loans. Anyone in their right mind knows this isn't fair unless you pay off the loans people had before and the people who will have loans years or even months later. This is nothing but their plan to suck in 34 million Democratic voters. It started off Biden wanted to wipe out all their loans up to Fifty thousand. This is how Democrats win. They buy their votes. They offered Blacks thousand in reparations. They flew the gay flag at every American Embassy. They suck up to every group they find in one way or the other. That's also why Biden wants to bring in millions of illegals. He knows by bringing them in, they will be so grateful that when made citizens, they will vote Democrat.
     

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