Biden and Putin agree to 'principle' of summit discussing Ukraine

Since when are you interested in the fate of Ukraine?

Have you suddenly become a globalist?

MAGA has always been for non-intervention.

How many of your friends - and maybe yourself - were against military aid to Ukraine?

 

Maga don beat up on ISIS - he not the one pull troops out of the Afghan .. What you talking ? .. Non-Intervention don't mean not defending our Friends .. what you talking about .. non intervention is not starting wars - for no reason -- instigating .. as is normally the case .. regime change wars .. that kind of stuff.

 

Russia invaded Crimea in 2014.

This is common knowledge.

 

How many MAGA here - and in the US - claim that NATO is useless?

Mattis resigned because Trump was weakening ties among NATO members.

 

Did you not understand what I said ? what non intervention means .. has nothing to do with the Ukraine crisis.

NATO is useless in terms of defense via military .. and my arguments against Trump are way better than yours .. so no need to be MAGA to think NATO useless .. it is what it is ... What purpose does it serve ? It is more of an economic union than a military one .. as there is nothing militar to do.. except mess with the Middle East. It serves no purpose as defense against Russia or China The Nuclear Arsenal of France and Britain ensure Russia and China will not be invading the Homeland .. not "NATO" ..

The pressure applied to Russia is what .. "Economic" NATO is not going to go toe to toe with Russia in a war over Ukraine .. NATO is not stopping Russia from Invading in any military sense... the only Pressure they can exert is Economic.

 

No NATO country has ever been attacked.

If Ukraine were a member today, there would be no Russian soldiers massed on its borders.

 

Ok I see you want to move the goal posts and I don't blame you.

I've started several threads and stated many times that Ukraine isn't worth the loss of one Amierican life.

That fact.does not change Bidens continuing series of blunders.

He literally can't do anything right.

 

As long as you don't want the US to be involved, you have nothing to blame Biden for.

If all Americans were MAGA like you, Putin would have invaded half of Europe with your consent.

 

Why are you talking nonsense -- just told you it is nukes that protects NATO - and Ukraine is not in NATO .. so if cows could fly they would.

 

WTF are you talking about "Biden has been cut high level talks" ?

 

Flawed logic.

Trump is Maga and Putin gained nothing.

It did reveal that Hillary conspired with the Russians to produce a false dossier.

And under oath no dem would say otherwise.

You guys believe whatever you are told.

 

The 4 or 5 nation alliance, which includes France, Germany, and Russia held on an emergency basis day before yesterday about Halting hostilities.

 

Link ?

 

Twice, in 2017 and 2019, Congress overturned a decision by Trump not to impose economic sanctions against Russia.

In August 2017, Congress overturned Trump's veto by 419-3...

While Congress has felt compelled to punish Russia beyond the sanctions President Barack Obama imposed at the end of his term, Trump -- who has called for warmer relations with Russia as a candidate and president -- opposed sanctions that the White House believed would only hurt cooperation with President Vladimir Putin's government.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-trumps-delays-russia-sanctions/story?id=50733408

 

Ask Google.

I don't spoon feed low info individuals.

 

Lol at your spin.

After all on the false Russia news that even congress bought.

By 2019 the dems held congress and were trying to impeach Trump on false charges.

Trumps coming.

 

He still might. Biden won't even place sanctions on Putin after jawboning about it for weeks. Even Chris Coons, a Democrat Senator from Delaware, is complaining about Biden's inaction.

 

You have zero foundation for your statement. Both Biden and the White House stated there was an agreement with Putin on principle's to meet and Putin said there was no such thing. That is not Macron. That is Biden and Putin in full disagreement. Also called, Joe lying to the people again! Trying to sell us on his success at anything, but alas we are stuck with the Failure in Chief!

 

You may want to double check your dates.

 

So Mr history buff, what alliance includes Russia, Germany and France

 

Finally, you admit Trump didn't indeed draw all the military out. See that wasn't so hard. Will you also admit the country was in Afghan military control until Biden pulled out the remaining 2,500 troops and the biggie, air support? You started with your typical BS trump pulled the troops out, don't be coy, we completely understand your consistent half messaging that goes against the truth. Will you also admit Biden changed the timeline twice, in essence breaking Trump's agreement with the Taliban? Will you admit the Taliban broke the agreement with Trump and Biden did nothing? Will you admit that after Biden pulled the troops out, he immediately had to send troops back in to save those he left behind, including embassy staff and other Americans? EVERYONE OF THESE ARE HISTORICAL FACTS!

 

Yet you blamed Trump for Russians buying facebook ads. How cute.

 

And Obama and Biden allowed it. He certainly didn't invade after the Obama presidency now did, he. Do you think there's a reason why he did it during Obama and now is about to under Biden? Coincidence?

 

BIDEN blames Biden. HE understands that it happened on his watch and it's his fault.

"In April, I made the decision to end this war. As part of that decision, we set the date of August 31st for American troops to withdraw.
...
I take responsibility for the decision. ..."
source: Remarks by President Biden on the End of the War in Afghanistan | The White House

Those are the facts you can't get around. It was Biden's choice. It was his decision, his doing. The blood is on Biden's hands.

 

I have full foundation for my statement, from the apparently unread OP

https://www.elysee.fr/en/emmanuel-m...the-president-biden-and-the-president-poutine

If you had that any more backwards, it would actually be coming around the other way...

Biden and the WH said they would attempt Macron's plan... The Kremlin spokesperson (not Putin himself) said no agreement was made. 2 are in agreement and a renowned liar disagrees.... Hmmm... What a conundrum...