Biden and Putin agree to 'principle' of summit discussing Ukraine

Sure, there are some differences, but it's not like Trump killed mercs while other presidents killed proper Russian soldiers. No president has done kinetic **** to stand up to the Russians like Trump. And on one level, dead Russians are dead Russians, regardless of the uniform they're wearing.

Under President Trump's leadership, the US military killed more Russians (of any variety) than any other president in the last few decades. Hell, under President Trump's leadership, I'm pretty sure the US military killed more Russians than ALL other presidents in the last 30 years or so, combined.

 

LOL I have just seen that I already gave you a link over a month ago:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...onday-officials.596330/page-2#post-1073211026

Now, remind me, who was President in 2018?

 

Please.

Trump has been so tough on the Russians that Putin publicly supported him in 2016 and 2020....

 

There is no coincidence.

If Putin threatens Ukraine, it is because he does not want NATO to expand eastward.

Trump agreed with that.

He wanted to be friends with him, to make him a political ally.

Biden and Obama have always seen Putin for what he really is: a dangerous dictator.

 

My statement was pulled directly from your OP and you still call me wrong.

"President Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin have agreed to "the principle" to meet for a summit discussing "security and strategic stability in Europe," but will only take place if Russia does not invade Ukraine."

"White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki confirmed that while President Biden and Putin have accepted the meeting "in principle," Russia continues to indicate they are making preparations for "a full-scale assault on Ukraine very soon."

And then there is this:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/kremlin-says-no-concrete-plans-for-ukraine-peace-summit-with-us/

What I shared was 100% factually correct! Putin did not agree to the principle to meet according to his "Jen Psaki"!

 

So you make things up and then expect others to somehow justify what you think ?

 

As I thought, you can't refute the facts.

 

This administration either has no idea what to do or doesn't have the guts to do it.

 

FFS man, you keep making crap up to fit your narrative.

the 2500 were their SOLELY to provide support at the airport ! I showed you where trump DID withdraw the troops, yet you still make claims that he didn't do anything

What Biden did to change timelines had no effect on anything because the troops were already gone. AGAIN, Time is linear. FFS man, you're wrong, I've shown the proof and and you just keep saying the same thing over and over like its just a fact, but thats only because in your head facts dont matter, it's all about "blame Biden" even when the actual facts dont support it.

YES, the Taliban broke the agreement.....right after Trump released their leadership. FFS man, Stevie Wonder saw that comming.

YES, Biden screwed up at the airport, but literally everything else i on Trump

But you make up in your little head whatever helps you sleep at night

 

So you deny that the troops to support anything but the airport were removed before Biden took Office ?

You deny that the 5000 Taliban leaders were released just before Trump left office ?

The only thing Biden set was the final withdrawl of US citizens left in Afghanistan

Those 5000 Taliban prisoners whom Trump had released just before Biden took office had no effect on the stability of the region that he handed to Biden right ?

He releases the Taliban leadership, removes all but the 2500 troops needed to support the airport, the 5000 Taliban leaders help destroy whats left of the Afghani army and take possession of the armaments the US left to the now defeated Afghani military, and thats Bidens fault ?

 

Which decision did Biden make that caused the Afghanistan to fall to the Taliban. Be specific and cite the executive order of law Biden signed that caused it

 

I agree with that last part.... The Russian "Psaki" is saying Putin didn't agree to meet in principle.

Which means they are calling Macron a liar, since he said Putin did...

Nothing to do with Biden...

No, what you shared was the Russian contradiction of what Macron shared...

 

LOL best joke of the day
Just so happens Putin only invades during Obama and Bidens administrations.
Trump agreed with Putin invading Ukraine, wow what insider knowledge you have. Amazing the access, you had to Trump lol.

 

And now Russia is cut off from western financing.

 

You've got to exclude an awful lot of attacks through very careful parsing for that to be even close to true.

The US, of course, invoked Article V after 9/11. The events of that day were quite clearly an "attack". See AFTER THE ATTACKS: THE ALLIANCE; For First Time, NATO Invokes Joint Defense Pact With U.S. - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Syria had various hostilities with Turkey for years (2012-2016-ish), including when they shot down a Turkish F-4 jet and shelled a border town, killing and injuring several Turkish civilians. Turkey actually invoked Article IV over this.

Houthi rebels in Yemen fired missiles at the USS Mason (DDG-87) in October 2016, and in 2020 Iran fired a dozen or so ballistic missiles at Al Asad airbase.

 

Here are the sanctions as detailed by Biden:

• "We're implementing full blocking sanctions on two large Russian financial institutions: VEB and their military bank."
• "We're implementing comprehensive sanctions on Russia's sovereign debt. That means we've cut off Russia's government from Western financing. It can no longer raise money from the West and can not trade in its new debt on our markets or European markets either."
• "We'll also impose sanctions on Russia's elites and their family members. They share in the corrupt gains of the Kremlin policies and should share in the pain as well."
• "We've worked with Germany to ensure that Nord Stream 2 will not ... move forward."

Biden also noted that if Russia "continues its aggression," additional sanctions could follow.

 

It's right there in the post you quoted: "In April, I made the decision to end this war. As part of that decision, we set the date of August 31st for American troops to withdraw." Those are Biden's words. Those were his decisions. They're what caused Afghanistan to fall to the Taliban.

 

FFS man, TIME IS LINEAR !!!!!

Biden said what he said about the final withdrawl of the 2500 troops that were left to protect the airport !!!!! Everyone else, and EVERYTHING had already been removed or captured by the Taliban before Biden was elected.

Why are you being so obtuse about these FACTS

 

Dude what rock are you living under....

TALIBAN TOOK OVER IN AUGUST TWO WEEKS AFTER BIDEN PULLED OUT THE FINAL TROOPS
https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/01/1110052
WOW those 2,500 operated the base not the damn airport. Good grief.

 

They already controlled the rest of the country. Only Kabul was left and 2,500 soldiers wouldn't have changed one thing. Contrary to the propaganda, your soldiers aren't supermen.

Did you want Bidden to start the war again? Re-invade and make the Taliban dispersed again just to pop up again when you start moving the troops out again? Did you want a permanent occupation of Afghanistan?

 

FFS man, the 2500 were ONLY there to protect the airport. TRUMP signed the withdrawal agreement for all of Afghanistan (which I absolutely supported) and then left 2500 troops to support the airport and strategic American areas of deployment in and around Kabul. That’s NOT up for debate, as I have shown where he did that.

Are you saying that you think Joe should have redeployed and stayed in Afghanistan ?

 

Look up tripartite agreement.

 

This is the 2nd country to fall and the 3rd embassy lost under Brandon.

 

Oh good luck with that from 80 yrs ago. Sanctions have started.

 

You mean 80 hrs ago doctor.