Biden to Gun Owners: You’ll Need an F-16 to Go Against the Government

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  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    It will never come to that. these gun loving conservatives are losing.

    Here are some statuses of Gun ownership.

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    Not all gun owner are conservative/republican. Most of my liberal friends own guns. I live in Wisconsin. Hunting and Football ( American football) is MUST have activity for any Wisconsinite. But that doesn’t mean we run around with our gun like some conservative. That doesn’t mean we take our gun in the church or movie theater because some boogeyman is coming to get us.

    Conservatives are loosing their grip in USA. They can make all the noise but soon they will have no power.
     
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    Must be in alternative world they sell F-16 to privet citizen. I am on earth. here on earth US GOV don't sell F-16 to privet citizen.
     
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    well tell us. right now anything 80% or less doesn't count
     
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    well the public teachers unions are doing their best to dumb down Americans so you might have a point
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So fighter jets were not needed. Our soldiers could not win without killing friendlies. To say that they would need fighter jets is far from reasonable.

    Can you specifically name a single gun law that protects our daughters and wives?
     
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    He doesn't seem to understand, the guys with the F-16s are not on his side, and won't follow his orders to massacre Americans.
     
  7. Noone

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    I hate to burst your bubble of ignorance but U.S. Aircraft were used extensively in both wars.
    QUICK REFERENCE TO
    FEDERAL FIREARMS LAWS
    I. POSSESSION OF A FIREARM OR AMMUNITION BY A PROHIBITED
    PERSON:
    18 USC § 922(g) & (n). Punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment. May receive
    minimum sentence of 15 years without parole if offender has three or more prior
    convictions for a felony crime of violence (e.g. burglary, robbery, assault, possession
    of offensive weapons) and/or drug trafficking felony.
    Elements
    A. Possession or receipt of a firearm or ammunition;
    B. By a subject who falls within one of the following categories:
    Felon - (Additionally, persons awaiting trial on felony charges are prohibited from receiving
    firearms.);
    Drug user or addict - (Often shown where paraphernalia seized, subject tests positive for drugs
    and/or subject claims drugs were possessed for personal use.);
    Alien - (Includes illegal aliens and aliens lawfully admitted under non-immigrant visas, i.e., those
    aliens not admitted for permanent residence. This provision does not prohibit aliens who lawfully
    possess a so-called “green card” from possessing guns or ammunition.);
    Is subject to a domestic restraining order - (The order must prohibit contact with an intimate
    partner, or child of the subject, and must have been issued only after a hearing of which the
    subject was notified and at which the subject had an opportunity to participate. The order must
    also find the subject poses a threat to the physical safety of the intimate partner or child or must
    prohibit the use, threatened use or attempted use of physical force.);
    Has a prior conviction for domestic assault - (Includes a prior conviction for any assault or
    threatened use of a deadly weapon against a present or former spouse or partner or child or
    guardian of any such person. The subject must have been entitled to a jury trial and been
    represented by counsel in the prior proceeding or be shown to have waived those rights.);
    Fugitive from justice - (Fled any state to avoid being prosecuted or to avoid testifying in any
    criminal proceeding.); or
    Dishonorably discharged from the military; AND
    C. The firearm or ammunition was transported across a state line at any time.
     
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    Yeah, but that doesn't stop Trump and his sycophants from trying.
     
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    and how has that protected anyone? criminals easily get weapons despite the law and Biden prosecutors let them back out
     
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    I wouldn't expect Biden to understand the difference between offense and defense in the context of 'taking on the govt', but I would've hoped his handlers would... or perhaps they're counting on Americans in general not understanding it...
     
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    Us?
     
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    It’s an idiotic myth.

    But gun nuts cling to it like a life raft. They think the .38 in their kitchen drawer is their only guarantee of “freedom”. Then they vote for a fascist who openly brags that he is going to weaponize the government against individuals.

    The hypocracy of it all is amazing.
     
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    I know you're against ALL gun law, but 18 USC § 922(g) & (n), is actually a good framework to start.
    Criminals have been at it much longer, and don't have laws and rules to comply with.
    That's just RW boilerplate nonsense.
     
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    I'm reading your signature...

    How many F-16s did the Oathkeepers bring?

    [Clown nose off]

    The argument appears to be that an armed population cannot resist the force of a tyrannical government because government possesses weapons that are too powerful.

    The flaw in this argument is that if the government uses powerful weapons destroy an internal threat, they also destroy internal assets that the tyrannical government needs to preserve. For example, if the farmers take up arms against the government, the government can't carpet bomb the farms and still feed the population. The Israeli conflict shows us that if an armed resistance headquarters in a hospital or a school, an f-16 airstrike to the hospital is going to create a smidgen of international outrage. In an age where the most powerful weapons have the ability to destroy the entire planet, modern warfare is less and less about who has the biggest kill switch. It's far more about who's smarter, who's more invested in the outcome, and who's got the most bodies to throw at the problem. In a conflict like a civil war in a well armed population, the government will only win if the majority of the people agree with the government.
     
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    Unarmed with body armor, pepper spray, tasers, bear spray, various battering rams,,,,, and more than a few guns. They were hanging out the enclosed area where Trump spoke.

     
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    I don't believe the federal government had the proper constitutional jurisdiction to pass that crap based on the fiction that the commerce clause allowed it.
     
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    those who want to know what you want to ban-
     
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    I believe I stated it very clearly. You should review the thread
     
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    under Trump, Trump is weak
     
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    well upper receivers on AR 15s are not registered-they are not considered a part that needs a serial number

    you also want to ban the sale of parts that don't require 4473 compliance because a kit is nothing more than those parts

     
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    If you understand that is what I said, then why keep asking me?
     
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    I appreciate your concern, but my bubble is unburstable. I assume you were referring to the unwinnable wars.

    Anyone can copy and paste text. I am asking you to show how it makes our daughters and mothers safer. Are you saying that criminals don't have guns because of this law?
     
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    well you won't admit that you want to ban the sale of gun parts that don't require a serial number. that is insane to want that. and you won't tell us at what point does the material for a receiver become something you want serialized
     
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    LMAO, it is amazing to what lengths it takes to state the obvious. !!!!
     
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    I feel no need to answer to you, sir or madam
     
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