Biden vows to ban assault weapons 'come hell or high water'

I confess mine was not a full-throated suggestion. It doesn't really matter what anyone says, sensible or not.

We all know that Biden is just virtue signalling and will do nothing.

 

Well, they're Democrats, so...

 

I wasn't talking to you. Why don't you mind your own business.

 

Public board. Free speech.
But, thank you for the confirmation you have no meaningful response.

 

Still what?

 

On this issue he and I couldn't be more juxtaposed. He's comments are as divisive as a tRaitor tRump rally.

 

Because it's a dumb idea.

 

we could do the same thing with abortion at a national level or anal sex-which is responsible for far more deaths over the last 40 years than every semi auto rifle combined. I have a feeling those who are so enthusiastic at banning guns wouldn't much care for my suggestions.

 

lots of people got HIV through non-anal sex and drug use.

 

Gun bans have been imposed in the UK. Result: all crime including gun crime predictably soared after the bans.

Why would anyone expect a different outcome?

 

An anus ban would probably be more effective.

 

true-like the late great Arthur Ashe but it was gay men with multiple partners in the late 70s and early eighties who were most responsible for this disease. I remember, as a law student in 1981, reading the sunday NYT every week and I would see the obituaries of men who were about my age (22) and the cause was often listed as pneumonia. And I had suffered Pneumonia twice-bacterial and viral. One of my suitemates was the younger brother of ER doctor who worked at whatever hospital is associated with Stanford University. "Larry" told me that his brother was seeing all sorts of young men dying of "pneumonia" and almost all were homosexual. He noted that the doctors at Stanford, were just starting to figure out what was going on though no one really had a handle on it. Later on, you started hearing of transfusion patients (Ashe and Paul Michael Glaser's wife) and IV drug users (like Larry Flynt's wife) dying of it. And in 1991, one guy in my small (49) HS graduating class, who had been openly gay since about 9th grade, died of it. One of our other classmates visited this guy at hospice-he weighed less than 100 pounds-he was about 165 when he graduated. in 2013 my second cousin died of some syndrome that was generally only fatal to those who had HIV. He was gay and while effective anti viral protocols were in place by then, those who obtained the best medical care were still dying due to HIV repercussions. The last I checked over 700,000 people have died of AIDS in the USA and about 13K a year still do. That is about the same number of people who die of gunshot induced murders. yet less than 2% of murders each year involve any sort of rifle. I bet far more of those who die of HIV related deaths were infected due to anal sex.

 

well if we listed it merely as an anus ban, there would be major shakeups in the White House

 

Did the Swingers Clubs in San Francisco see a spike in AIDS back in the day?

 

Well I do know that my suite mate's brother said that it was the bath houses that seemed to be a vector-where some guys would get buggered by dozens of different partners in a short period of time and that would overwhelm the recipient's immune system and the virus became stronger and stronger as a result. Apparently that is what happened, the rampant promiscuity created a much stronger virus

 

Was there any speculation that it came from an NIH linked lab?

 

that was already done

Columbine happened during it.

 

they just want to harass lawful gun owners.

 

During his presidential campaign, Biden promised to reinstate the ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, as well as to require background checks for all gun sales. He has also called for other measures to address gun violence, such as a voluntary buyback program for assault weapons and increased funding for community-based violence prevention programs.

If you disagree then what are your solutions to the problem of gun violence?

 

1. Allow the people, the only effective peacekeepers, to start carrying concealed handguns without any interference from any level of government.
2. Arm police patrols with better cameras and task them with documenting crime for the warrant procedure instead of making stops or arrests.

Gun control laws are irrational and dangerous.

“In 1997-98, there were just over 4,900 recorded crimes in England and Wales involving the use of guns, other than air weapons. The figure had climbed to 7,362 for the year ending April 2001. Home Office sources have indicated privately that 2001-02 statistics will show an increase along the same lines as previous years. A regional breakdown of the figures show that gun crime is overwhelmingly an inner-city phenomenon. In 2001-02 guns were used to kill 73 people, half of them in London or Manchester.”
THE INDEPENDENT, 8,000 a year: serious gun crime ***doubles*** under Labour, By Andy McSmith and Sophie Goodchild, 05 January 2003. (*** mine)
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=366560

 

I dunno how to provide a gunbanner 'high water' ...so I guess it'll have to be hell.

 

I disagree because these restrictions are unnecessary, ineffective, and violate my rights.
This disagreement does not require me to provide an alternative to stand as valid.

 

In my previous post to which you responded, I listed several reasons why Biden's plan to ban "assault weapons" would not work in reducing America's homicide rate.

The first one was:

"1. I'm sure that you remember that banning "assault weapons" has already been tried and was proven to be an unconstitutional failure because semi auto rifles (aka "assault weapons) are so rarely used in homicides."

You claimed that the failure of the earlier "assault weapon" ban was not a reason that such a ban would fail if tried again.
My question is, if such a plan has already failed once, why make the same mistake twice?


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I doubt that you pay much attention to the any different types of shooting sports and Olympic competition that goes on in the US and other countries.
To be honest, I don't follow the different shooting sports closely myself but I've watched enough to see a lot of young people enjoying themselves with firearms that doesn't involve killing anything.

Additionally, the following NPR polls indicated that: "...
"Young people statistically aren't that much different than anybody else," Newport says." (1)

Re:

I don't now why gun control advocates only focus on the negative aspects of private gun ownership when there are so many recreational and practical uses for them. If you are interested to see how many different types of shooting sports there are, please see (#2), below:

Finally, there are few objects that are more of a deterrent to criminals than a firearm in the hands of a trained and rational person. A rational person, for example doesn't shoot someone over a TV or shoot a fleeing thug.

I doubt that there's anything that I could say to get you to feel differently about shooting enthusiasts, those who collect old firearms, hunters, or informal target shooters but I hope you'll see that the are many different uses for firearms other than homicides.

Thanks,




(1) "Millennials Are No More Liberal On Gun Control Than Elders, Polls Show"
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/24/5880...liberal-on-gun-control-than-elders-polls-show

EXCERPT "But past polling suggests that people younger than 30 in the U.S. are no more liberal on gun control than their parents or grandparents — despite diverging from their elders on the legalization of marijuana, same-sex marriage and other social issues.

"Young people statistically aren't that much different than anybody else," Newport says. "CONTINUED


(2) Different Types of Competition Shooting"
https://schooloftrades.edu/different-types-of-competition-shooting/

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) states that 19 million plus Americans safely invest their time in target practice. They use handguns, shotguns and rifles. Some of this is for fun and much of it is for competitive shooting. Practice makes perfect.

 

Joe says lots of things. Very few of them really pan out. Still waiting for that one-time student loan adjustment he announced in April 2021.

 

-General safety classes in public schools (not just for guns, but for many dangerous things commonly encountered in life, including guns). Abstinence works as a practice, but not as an instructive platform. This is known in relation to sex and drugs ...yet for some reason we think it'll work for guns?

-Overhaul the mental health system, including better funding and more availability, but also and primarily by not discouraging it by treating those with mental illness like they're already criminals. No amount of access to mental health is going to help people get better if they try to hide their problems in attempt to avoid losing their rights.

-Make violent crimes (not just assault with a firearm, but including assault with a firearm) carry much longer and more severe penalties. To accommodate this in our prison system would necessitate reducing or eliminating prison sentences for nonviolent crimes, which should be done anyway, so we'll call that a bonus.

And just FYI- we've had MBGCs in WA state for several years. Since passing it, it's cost $40M in additional administrative fees and our murder-with-gun rate has doubled. I don't mean to suggest the increased murder rate is necessarily due to the MBGCs (though its certainly a possibility...), but the $40M spent administrating it doesn't seem to have improved anything. If this were anything but gun control, we call it an OBJECTIVE FAILURE. But since it is gun control, I guess we spare no expense to virtue signal.