Biden vows to ban assault weapons 'come hell or high water'

I think lots of gun haters are often people who hate the religious right because they don't like the RR condemning their lifestyles so they support gun banning.

 

Its likely that if they hate the RR, they also hate the idea of people having guns; while both hatreds likely flow from the same headwater, the latter does not necessarily follow from the former.

 

It is merely the truth.


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That's not my argument.

A shooting that stops the attack without killing the attacker --> successful self defense.

A shooting that fatally wounds the attacker, but they kill the defender before dying --> unsuccessful self defense.

 

national review posted a influential editorial a few years ago noting that every group that sees middle class white Christian males as their political enemies has jumped on the gun control bandwagon since these leftist groups think

 

Are they recommending vaccines to prevent bullet wounds?

Its awkward to see the middle class white Christian males playing the victim card. Its just........awkward. Its like seeing the biggest guy in the school yard being bullied because he's too afraid to resist.

 

Which semi-automatic guns are NOT designed for "quick, efficient killing"?

 

Nothing would surprise me at this point. But as far as I know they aren’t recommending vaccines to address alcoholism either. But they believe everything including gun violence is in their jurisdiction in the context of public health. People are always moaning because the CDC has been denied funding to “study” guns like they do influenza.

An argument could be made that mass shootings are at this point a social contagion problem like eating disorders have been in the past and obesity is today. But that’s not what the CDC is interested in as far as I can tell.

 

Its you who is equating disease with murder, not them. You are just trying to make it sound like its them, because they say its a health issue. Lot of things are related to public health, like drinking water, pollution, diseases etc, but it doesn't mean they are all same. 321 people are shot ever day, and only 30% die, while the other 70% will require treatment, sometimes very long term, so yea, - its obviously a health issue.

 

I’m simply pointing out they want to study guns like they do cholera. They want to make recommendations on firearms like they do with antibiotic use. They want to form and implement policy on guns just like they do with influenza.

I never said they were trying to vaccinate for gunshot or anything. I just pointed out the CDC views firearms just like disease when it comes to research and policy formation/implementation.

 

Which is why the anti-gun left wants to fund CDC studies on "gun violence".
The CDC cannot implement policy which infringes on the right to keep and bear arms.
The CDC CAN recommend policy which will prey upon the emotions of the ignorant.

 

With microscopes? I doubt that. Different issues require different study.

 

LOL. Yes, micro stamping firing pins or chamber rims research would certainly require microscopes.

 

Thanks, we'll continue to have our own form of government you have no right to do anything regarding.
Wealth beyond measure outlander

 

LOL have you never seen their vehicles? You realize most of them are packing "PATROL RIFLES" now rather than shotguns right?

 

I think he'd pull his sidearm and hold you at gunpoint until you described in detail how it all worked such that it could be manufactured.

 

And such taking is both moral and legal. The fact that it takes life as its purpose, doesn't make it unable to be owned or allowing of regulation.
If you don't like that, repeal the 2nd amendment, or alter the 14th to make the 2nd not incorporated.
If you find you can't do that (spoiler alert: You don't have the numbers) then you can just shuffle off this mortal coil still mad about it for all the good it will do you.

 

And then he'd order 100,000, with an option on 100,000 more.

 

Why are yall playing **** **** word games about this?

A gun is for killing, and in numerous instances that's perfectly legal and moral. Its a tool, a weapon, a bearable arm, and I have a right to it.
Full stop.

You're allowing this person to set the frame of the conversation, and you're avoiding his point rather than taking a bite out of it and showing how silly his position is.

 

Sure, but the poster was trying to argue guns are not made for that purpose.

Why would I do that? I am a gun owner myself, but at least I admit guns can be used to kill people.

PS You don't have to repeal 2nd amendment to have regulation. We already have regulation.

 

I am just repeating what several combat soldiers told me as to the purpose of a military rifle . Of course his position is silly.

 

See NYSRPA v BRUEN. Yes, you do.

 

Yeah and that's the same mealy mouthed diplo speak approved bullshit.
Its a weapon. Its for killing. Sometimes people need killing.

 

I don't have to see old cases, to know that some regulation is constitutional, and is already in place, while come other regulation goes too far.

No, you do (I have no idea what you are talking about).

 

if you want to be able to discuss the constitutionality of gun regulations-some you support and some I suppose you oppose, it is best to understand the current case law concerning the second amendment as set forth by the one source that counts-the USSC. Bruen basically threw out "may issue" arbitrary rules for getting a CCW license in NY and, more importantly, dramatically increased the scrutiny that state (or federal) restrictions on citizens concerning guns, must meet in order to survive a constitutional challenge. No longer is the once permissible intermediate level of scrutiny available to law makers and the "rational basis" test is completely gone

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

 

Right
The USSC tossed means-end scrutiny out the window in Bruen.
There's no more "rights must be balanced with public safety" nonsense.