Biden's war could become our war

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What would be Russia's first target in the US?

  1. The new World Trade Center

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  2. The Whitehouse

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  3. The CIA headquarters

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  4. Other target

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  5. Other response

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's time to stop ignoring this war, it really does matter.

    The MSM is busy telling people that it doesn't matter, but it does.

    If we keep killing Russians, or Orcs as so many are fond of saying,
    we could suffer.

    It isn't just Biden who can fire missiles at Russia, Russia can also
    fire missiles this way too.

    If we keep killing Russians.png
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Back in the early days Jake Sullivan said that Russia would not
    dare respond to the US moving forces into Ukraine.

    And he said if they did respond then the Ukrainian forces would
    have them out within 45 days.

    It is worth remembering that Ukraine's army was 680,000 troops
    many NATO armed and trained.

    Biden believed Jake.
     
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    Go ahead....fire missiles at US/UK. FVCK around, find out.
     
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    None of the above. It is a medium range missile so the more likely target would be the new US base on Poland or perhaps Ramstein at the very worst. Putin knows full well what a direct attack on a US city would end in. Of course the more realistic scenario we are seeing is him counter-escalating so he will have to give up less with Trump in a few months than he otherwise would have,
     
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    Nobody is here for your answers. We are here for GENUINE answers. I do not believe you are being genuine.

    Violating Russia's red lines led to the invasion of Ukraine. It took time, but that is what happened. Why won't you just admit that?
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I agree. We really do need to step up our support for Ukraine and be more forceful with the Kremlin fascists if we want to see this war brought to an end sooner rather than later.
     
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    Russia always tries to blame others for their wrong-doing. Most of us are wise to their wicked ways.
     
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    Telecommunications with other nations, refineries, well heads, and power facilities, near west coast ocean. Alaska. Undefended targets that can do the most damage without resulting to nukes.
     
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    What was the violation of the said red lines that led to RuSsias invasion?
     
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    Military should be patrolling these areas day and night, but it's crazy tk think that I don't trust Biden and our generals to do the obvious.
     
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    I'm sure they have the situation in hand. Not that the Moscow Midget would dare touch any of them. This thread is simply part of his latest nuclear scare campaign.
     
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    LOL. Do you think U.S. goons can swat missiles from the sky with their bare hands?
     
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    Missles can be seen from a distance due to the heat and noise. And antimissle defense would take care of that not patrols.

    Drones can sneak in. And I am talking about drone and aircraft patrols not ground troops patrolling.
     
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    And what are patrols going to accomplish?

    A human shieldy way to get Russia to not attack infrastructure for fear of "going too far" by killing US military personnel?
     
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    Drone patrols probably have heat and radar vision coupled with Ai and human monitoring to see things from a distance. Plus being in the air gives them better sight. That and they are likely armed to defend against other drones if need be. And I think that this would allow evacuation of the targeted facility before they get close.
     
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    Clear as mud. Likely and probably are carrying far too much weight.

    Don't quit your day job attempting to become a military consultant.
     
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    I hope you take your own advice.
     
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    I just pay attention. And we should assume that they would learn from tactics used against them.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ian-oil-refineries-infrastructure-2024-06-18/

    Military drones are larger and can reach pretty far but obviously are still limited on distance. You can get more distance out of them by having the explode at key points of the facilities they attack causing more damage than the explosive alone could cause.
    This would allow it to carry less weight and make a one way trip instead of returning to keep it out of enemy hands because the drone will be destroyed in the process.

    But just to clarify about the Ai, the Ai isnt like the terminator. It's a coded program with some learning capabilities to allow for quicker response. Having a human pilot it at a distance would not be feasible because the of the communication delay at long distance. The drone would have to receive commands and then perform some of the actions on its own such as pathfinding and avoiding obstacles etc.

    Also, the attacks would have to be fairly close to Russia due to the limited distance of drones. Alaska and maybe Washington state would be of the greatest concern. But it theoretically could be possible to carry a smaller version of the drone on a submarine to get it closer. But this would be limited to surveillance I suppose. But if they are just kamikaze drones, I suppose they may be able to make them smaller. Idk
     
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    Are you even aware that you are not remotely answering the question of how patrols will protect such infrastructure? You say drones will be destroyed without saying how, and you have just waltzed past what to do about missiles altogether.

    Please...just stop replyng to me if you won't address the actual issue.
     
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    Your demeanor is interesting.

    The missile defense depends on the Missles but since it would come from overseas, it would likely be high up and easily tracked by satellite. Then it's a matter of shooting it down or causing predetination with intercepting Missles.

    But drone scouts aren't for stopping Missles. They are for finding ships and drones at sea before they come inland so that you can have a response ready for them.
    I think what they should do is have charging pads in the ocean that the drones can fly between and land on. The pads would charge by solar slowly and when the drone lands it can fast charge the drone. I'd have the drones communicate the visual data and only fly to fill in the missing visual that the satellite cannot pick up due to cloud cover. With the landing pads, if something is spotted, a drone will likely be close by to investigate close up.

    This would provide an early notice of an attack by drone if the enemy tried to use cloud cover at night to attack our facilities. I'd have larger short range drones that can swarm and fie upon enemy drones to eliminate them before they get close.
     
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    I think that the first target of the Russians in case of a full-scale nuclear war will be missile launch silos and other systems capable of launching a missile attack (ports with submarines and ships, airports with strategic bombers...etc.). Also, industrial infrastructure and coastal cities. I think it is logical to destroy the military component and industrial production with power generating facilities. As well as port infrastructures.

    There are a lot of smart and good people living in the USA, but unfortunately these smart and good people have been held hostage by the lunatics who have taken over power in the USA. I have always said that the first victim of the Washington lunatics is the American people.
    And these people, ordinary Americans, who know that it is unrealistic to wait for adequate solutions from Washington, are writing letters to Putin in Russia.

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    Residents of Slovakia donated 52 thousand euros to the victims in Kursk region. That's what ordinary Europeans do. And only the lunatics who have seized power in Western countries supply the Ukrainian fascists.

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    Exactly. These threads are as close to Kremlin thinking as we are going to get.
     
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    Wen nuke?
     
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    The United States has the characteristics of a fascist state. This opinion was expressed by American conservative journalist Tucker Carlson in a conversation with writer Glenn Greenwald on his channel.

    “It is actually our government that is the fascist state, not Russia,” Carlson said.

     
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