Biden's war could become our war

Tucker Carlson is one of Putin's sock puppets, since many years. He is racist and sexist, not conservative.

 

Ahahaha...
Of course we all know that the fairest and fairest in the world is you.

 

No, the best an the fairest ever was man Grandma Josefine!

 

That's a weird angle given that it's Trump and other "America First" proponents who want the US to ignore the war, that Americans shouldn't care about any events in Europe in general, essentially saying that allowing Russia to simply grab part (or all) of Ukraine doesn't matter.

They certainly could, and Putin has been talking about that ability for longer than most Americans have been paying attention, but he's not come close to actually doing it because the whole point of the bluster and rhetoric is to try to hide the fact that he has nothing to gain and everything to loose from expanding the conflict beyond Ukrainian and Russian borders. The strange part is how many apparently smart people appear to be wilfully falling for it.

 

~ Democrats and John Kerry are concerned how this will impact the climate and the environment ..."

 

Russians appear to be patient but do not lie.
Keep messing around and eventually you will find out.

A significant majority of Americans voted against Kamala
and her 'continued support for Ukraine', meaning
to continue the war.
A significant majority of Americans voted for Trump and
an end to our war in Ukraine.

This will make it a lot easier for the Kremlin to sell continued
patience with the US, even though the US started the war
in Ukraine, but now we want to end it, and most of the U
US public were not even aware we started it, so can people
who don't know about starting a war be blamed for it?

I don't think so.

 

But keep messing around and you will eventually find out.

And it happened yesterday morning.

Russia did escalate a little bit in an odd way.

Russia did not escalate by blowing up the Kyiv 'government',
just blew up a missile factory, but did it using a new missile system
we knew nothing about.

It looks spectacular on video. The missile comes in very fast and splits
into 6 warheads and hits 6 targets. I watched it at half speed and it
was still very fast. Mach 11 in fact.

 

It has always come to this everywhere throughout history. Eventually some people get stupid rich, and it is not for having a philosophical mind full of justice and fairness. Eventually those rich people and their progeny buy all the power. Eventually those people and their progeny get disconnected from reality and become lunatics. And everyone else becomes a slave to their money and power.

I am not sure where Russia is in this cycle, but clearly America is in the worth phase of it. There will be a reckoning of some sort in the near future.

 

That was my thinking...but I did not actually vote, but without some direct polling evidence I would not assume that most American votes had much to do with the war in Ukraine. Harris offered nothing new or positive. She was just unelectable period. And she was running against a man who was already president once.

Its true that Americans vote mostly on concern for their own wallets, but I think most have trouble making the connection between foreign military aid and their own personal losses.

 

I think you are confusing a surprise with an escalation.

For Russia to actually escalate at this point it will have to either strike a NATO country or use nukes.

 

I failed to explain what I meant.
What Russia has done is to break the escalation from
conventional to nuclear into two parts, by using a nuclear
capable missile but with a conventional payload.

It is a bit scary as when so many EU countries contributed
nuclear-capable F-16 Fighter bombers to Kyiv, but as far
as we know only with conventional weapons.

Russia has stated that a large group of these attacking all
at once will be considered to be an existential threat.

 

That is a very good example of what you had just posted:

Kamala is a lazy spoiled brat who even paid as VP didn't bother to read through or practice a speech
in advance of coming to the podium. I really doubt she bothered to write it either.

And it wasn't worth her while to think about how the war in Ukraine, killing a thousand a day and maiming
a similar number could be ended, she just didn't care. She could have asked someone else, but
why bother?

 

Gee, you seem quite excited about a nuclear exchange.

You figure that the US/West/Russia should just fire all of them or should we all just fire some of them?

 

Yeah...I understand you...and your thinking has validity. But I still cannot call it an escalation...to me it was tit for tat with the bonus that it COULD have been nuclear. In other words, Russia hit the same as they got then they did a fancy back flip that did no damage. I can't call that escalation. I see that as just a little message that they mean business....done since the western media and our idiot leaders keep insisting they are bluffing.

I swear, the only thing some people can even register is stock prices going up and they have no concept of why but only dream of what they can do with the money....but they won't be spending any money if they are dead.

 

"Bang, we will definitely bang." According to Yandex translate.

 

Do you two need some privacy?

 

There isn’t going to be a war because, as Trump promised, he’s going to end the Russia-Ukraine war as president-elect. Should be over real soon. Any day now.

 

I am sure we can both agree that Trump makes lavish claims he cannot fulfill.

But surely you can admit he is being sabotaged even on the most basic premise of his claim.....to bring about an end to the war in Ukraine...with the implied point that its not through all of us dying by nuke.

 

I'm not the one making "nuke threats"?

 

Putins gonna be a reserved in his response u til trump gets in

 

That’s an understatement

Disagree he’s being “sabotaged” as he was never going to end the war as president-elect, even before Biden decided to provide long range missiles.
There isn’t going to be a nuclear war. No one wants that.

 

You are sticking way too hard to that "president elect" business. We just agreed his promises are lavish. He will of course need to be president to have the power. And the Biden admin or deep state is sabotaging his chances.

No one wanted the Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, or Fukushima disasters either. I promise you, there is nothing on Earth humans cannot #u<k up, including Earth itself.

 

I’m just going by what Trump promised. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wait…so you’re equating a nuclear strike with nuclear reactor accidents???

 

Unfortunately today in Russia there is capitalism. That is the system, albeit with reservations, which exists everywhere. As Comrade Lenin said, “Being determines consciousness.”
But Russian people know what a real socialist state is. And although in Russia socialism was not completely built, and with the coming to power of the scoundrel Khrushchev in general began to roll back from socialist attitudes, I think that Russian people will return to the construction of a new, more progressive, socio-political system.
If you look philosophically at what is happening, as you probably know, the change of the social and political system is inevitable. Simply because society is evolving.
For example. There was an era of slavery. But with the development of agricultural technology and the increase in population, there was a need for more efficient forms of farming. Feudalism emerged. (at that time unambiguously more progressive social and political system). Then, conventionally, the steam engine was invented - industrial enterprises appeared - free movement of goods, services and capital became urgently necessary - capitalism appeared (at that time unambiguously more progressive social and political system).
Then capitalism pranceformed into imperialism. ( there is a great work by Lenin “Imperialism as the highest stage of capitalism". In this work (it is short) he shows perfectly how capitalism with free competition turns into imperialism with the dictatorship of transnational corporations. And proves the inevitability of it.)
Now with the development of artificial intelligence and new technologies, capitalism has become obsolete. And although the masters of money do not want to share power, the collapse of capitalism is inevitable.
I do not know what forms the transformation of the system will take, but I think that without bloodshed, serious bloodshed, it will not be possible.
By the way, the transitions from one system to another were stretched in time - there were progressive solutions, then a setback to the past. (For example, there was once the Republic of Venice, the Republic of Naples..... - and then back to feudalism. Under Napoleon, France is a republic, but then back to monarchy. The first time capitalism was finally consolidated, if I'm not mistaken, was in Holland. Then it developed everywhere else.) Scientists write that the transition from the slave system to the feudal system took 700 years, from feudalism to capitalism - 500 years.
As for socialism, there are only two attempts - first the Paris Commune (lasted about 70 days), second the USSR. It existed for more than 70 years, from practically feudal country with illiterate population became the second economy of the world and controlled half of the world in the shortest period by historical standards. Then it backfired. But I am sure that changes will definitely happen.

 

<Mod Edit> No I was neither equating nor comparing them. (sigh)