Black Airbnb guest shot while walking to grocery store, officials say

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when the min wage goes up, the welfare wage goes up
     
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    Minimum wage is not designed to alleviate welfare.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    low wages cause the need for welfare
     
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    no they do not. Low wages exist for start up jobs, not careers. That’s economic suicide.
     
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    His attorney said it on his behalve.... putting it like this:
    Waters’ attorney, Jose Badillo, however, argued that while the sexagenarian knew the victim was running away, he believed that the stranger could be one of the suspects who broke into his car and stole his garage door openers a few nights before.

    https://nypost.com/2022/12/14/man-shot-black-airbnb-guest-because-he-though-he-was-a-thief-lawyer/

    You're just obviously here to support a white man rushing out his house, to gun down an unarmed black man doing nothing wrong but walking down the road, but just because he's a young black man with a lot of could be's.
     
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    Your free to source a citizen can detain or pull a gun on somebody who you only "suspect" of doing something illegal.

    And I'm aware you championed them 3 red neck and known racists all the way of crying us a river that they were convicted over illegal detaining and ending up killing that got them around 20 years, and an other 20 years for a hate crime for suspecting a black person for being black. And this one red neck is just the same, without a deadly ending.
     
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    Is it?
    Read post 230.
     
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  8. Bluesguy

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    Right or wrong get the facts straight

    "A defense attorney for Waters, Jose Badillo, tried to make sense of what possessed his client to fire at a complete stranger during a hearing on Monday.

    Badillo said that Waters’ car had been broken into a couple of nights before the shooting and that his garage door openers were stolen. This, Badillo reportedly said, made Waters believe the victim was the man responsible for the break-in.

    But a past description given by Waters to authorities appeared to contradict this claim, ABC 7 reported. The judge said Monday there was no evidence the victim was involved in the alleged break-in, nor did he resemble a suspect description Waters gave cops at the time.

    Waters’ defense also told a judge that Waters believed the victim was holding a gun when he was shot. Prosecutors revealed Monday that what Waters’ believed to be a weapon was actually a pair of headphones."

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/white...nb-guest-thought-he-was-a-thief-lawyer-claims

    Excuse it............nope, prosecute him. But let's stop with the false claims about it.
     
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    Attempted murder.
     
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    Is that a serious question or just a poor attempt at trolling?
     
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    This is their sentencing

    A federal judge in the Southern District of Georgia today sentenced Travis McMichael, 36, to life plus 10 years in prison; and his father Gregory McMichael, 66, to life plus seven years in prison; and William “Roddie” Bryan, 52, to 35 years in prison, for committing federal hate crimes and other offenses in connection ...Aug 8, 2022

    Federal Judge Sentences Three Men Convicted of Racially ...
     
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    Anytime anyone around here post a story about a black person victimizing a white person it is considered racist to feature the story.

    So I'm just wondering about all the people around here that hold that position.... Do they believe that this story is racist? Why is the race of the victim the most prominent feature of the title?
     
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    a couple nights earlier, no, that is no excuse for his actions
     
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    so does anyone think him buying that gun was a good life decision for him?
     
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    Buying the gun was not the problem. The illegal and irresponsible use of the gun was the problem.

    There are literally hundreds of millions of people that own guns in the United States that never have a problem because they own a gun or use that gun illegally.

    Is it your assertation that it was somehow the gun's fault?
     
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    I agree so why all the hyperbole and conjecture and suppositions about it?
     
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    without the gun, he would not of done that, so had he not bought the gun, he would be sitting in his house right now vs a jail cell

    yes, and some are ok owning guns, this guy was not one of those people

    it was this guy's fault for not knowing he was not going to be a responsible gun owner

    why would you defend his choosing to buy a gun, isn't hindsight 20\20
     
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    And also without a gun I would have never had that tasty wild hog I shot and ate a few years ago.

    Also without a gun some woman somewhere could not prevent a home invasion and a rape. Someone somewhere would be unable to defend their self.

    If people never bought a swimming pool no one would never drowned in it do you have some point?

    Again buying a gun was not the problem the miss use of the gun was his problem.
     
  19. FreshAir

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    we are not talking about you, we are talking about him

    each of us has to choose if we buy a gun or not, know if we're capable of handling a gun responsibly

    if you can... buy a gun
    if you can't... don't buy a gun
     
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  20. FatBack

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    Any adult with common sense should be capable of safely handling one.

    The other day some dumbass here was carrying his load of gun and ended up shooting himself and bleeding out on the way to the hospital. But he was a meth dealer so no great loss there.
     
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    and anyone viewing this case with hindsight should be able to see that his buying this gun was not a wise life choice for him

    that does not mean it's not a wise life choice for someone else

    in that case, I think we can also agree, that meth dealer made a bad life choice getting a gun.... as well as other bad life choices
     
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    can you give an example
     
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    Felony assault is about right depending on how serious his wounds were.
     
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    I'm just giving that as an example where a gun was beneficial to society. Any town that loses a meth dealer is one to the good.

    But lest I should digress into the weeds.... The point is it is not the fault of a gun. Guns are just hunks of metal that sit there until someone picks them up and does something with them
     
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    His buying a gun was a fine choice. His choice to confront this person at the wrong time was the bad choice.
     

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