Black Airbnb guest shot while walking to grocery store, officials say

You mean a man who confronted a suspected burglar and shot the man in self defence when he attacked him? You mean the 3 neighbours who tried to detain a suspected burglar for the police, shot him in self defence when he attacked one of them and tried to take his gun?

As for this case we're talking about on face level it does look bad but let's actually hear the facts, we've seen before how many stories (George Floyd, Jan 6th, Jesse Smollett, the McMaertin Trial etc) look one way but turn out 100% different,.

 

I sincerely doubt that. In general, in order for a self-defense shooting in a public space to be justified under the law, the shooter has to be able to articulate an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm. Imagine, for a moment, that the young black man had shot the older white gentlemen "as soon as he saw him". How do you think that explanation would go with the cops and the courts?

Q: "Why'd you shoot him?"
A: "He had a gun."
Q: "Lots of people have guns. Officer Smith over there has a gun right now. Do you think it's ok to shoot him?"
A: "Well, no, that's different".
Q: "How is it different? What did he do that you think made it ok to shoot him?"
A: "Well, I don't know, I just shot him as soon as I saw him."
Q: "Where would you like to serve your prison sentence?"

 

Eleven o'clock at night and someone comes rushing at you with a gun in his hand. Justified shooting. What would you do if a man with a gun in his hand comes rushing at you at eleven o'clock at night?

 

It depends on the circumstances. Is he screaming "I'm going to kill you MFer!!!" or "please help me! They're trying to kill me!"? Either one of those will yield drastically different responses. Is he pointing the gun at me or holding it down at his side? Do I recognize him? Is he fleeing a mob or beelining towards me when we're the only two on the street?

 

In this event he probably shouted something like "oi, you" while rushing at you while pointing a gun at you. The black man was shot from behind when he attempted to run away.

 

So you don't know what was said but you're going to tell us what was probably said?

And I'm guessing next you'll tell me that I'm defending the guy because I asked a critical question?

 

Try and keep up with the conversation

 

I'm keeping up just fine you just don't want to admit that you're speculating.

 

A vanilla botched robbery or burglary isn't that interesting though. This was a guy who was robbed, and for some reason thought that this black guy robbed him. Then when the black guy tried to escape, he shot him. So it's one of those racist things, I guess. And white guy with a gun playing cop thing.

As a side note. San Jose sucks. I hope I never have to go there again. I just hate that area.

 

He didn't shoot him for "trying to escape". He shot him because he thought he had a gun and was a threat. He apparently realized the magnitude of his error:

source: San Jose man charged with shooting unarmed Black man renting nearby Airbnb, DA says - ABC7 San Francisco (abc7news.com)

The majority of California (and Californians) suck. It's not just a San Jose thing.

 

Lake Tahoe, Roseville, Auburn are nice. Sacramento is okay. San Jose sucks. San Francisco is nice to visit but haven't lived there - driving feels crazy there. I don't even like to visit LA. San Diego is nice, but also haven't lived there, some relatives do.

 

The yahoo article from the OP says:

"
he 21-year-old victim had left his Airbnb rental to walk to a nearby grocery store on the night of the shooting, prosecutors said. He was unarmed.

When he crossed the street, he saw Waters exit a home and “quickly approach him while holding a black handgun,” the district attorney’s office said.

The victim tried to run to safety, but prosecutors alleged that Waters, whom they described as white, fired a single gunshot as his back was turned. As a result, the victim suffered “serious injuries” to his leg, they said.
"

It may be his (likely BS) defense that he thought the guy was armed, but he exited his home to confront him and shot him while he tried to escape.

 

You remember wrong, but that hardly surprises me anymore.

 

Meanwhile, (so far) this week in Chicago, 30 people have been shot, 7 of them fatally, and nobody at all gives two shits, because the shooters are overwhelmingly young black men.

 

Is it also rasict when a black victimizes a white.... Or only in the inverse?

 

"Police say after that, he asked for an attorney and declined to comment any further but stated later at booking specifically "I can't take it back, what I have done. I have paid the price. I f***ed up.""

well, if found guilty, he will pay the price, he has not yet

 

Still BAFFLED as to his motives?

 

It’s not actually determined by the victim and perp having a different ethnicity. The potential racism here is if he assumed the person was the thief he was looking for because of his race and he had no prior evidence the thief was black. But if it was just that he was an unexpected stranger and that’s why he thought he was the thief, then that would not be racist. Though people may still have suspicions.

 

I get the angle. It’s conservatives who promote things like stand your ground, castle doctrine, right to carry, and are more likely to call a shooting justified. Though this particular case doesn’t seem justifiable by anybody mainstream.

 

It's automatically assumed to be racist anytime the victim is black and the perpetrator is white but never in the reverse even though violent crimes in that order happened at probably a ratio of five to one.

If you want to see racism look no further

 

yes.
We call those things the right to personal safety. There’s no reason anyone would want less personal safety and that isn’t political.

 

Sounds like he'll be doing some time. Is there a point to this thread?

 

LOL. You don't know what the idiot white dude thought or was responding to. That you think you do is funny as hell.

 

raise the min wage and fewer white and blacks will need welfare

the price to society of cheap labor is welfare

 

minimum wage jobs are not career jobs. That’s just helping teenagers not adults.