Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

The police seem to have exceeded the limits of government control, so another version of socialism, the legal system, will now get involved. Indeed the roads and pavements that provide the stage for this American theatre of blood are as a result of socialism too.
You talk of European socialism as if it is that much different to the American socialism all around you in the United States.
Incidentally has it dawned on you that for the rest of the world Americans are the complacent foreigners?
Consider the socialism of Tim Berners Lee when contemplating enterprise and one result of socialism and socialist behaviour.

 

Yes, I ran the numbers. While the odds of anyone dying in police custody are astronomically low, those deaths do disproportionally impact the black community.

So, we fix the core problem of police needing to put their hands (or knees) on anyone's throat when that person is resisting arrest and review when it's appropriate for police to shoot someone who is running/fleeing to avoid arrest. Not only would total deaths go from a relatively small 1000 per year to virtually none, but also survivable physical injuries would decrease dramatically. We would get people safely and respectfully from the scene of the arrest to the police station for booking. Fix the core problem and it is no longer relevant how a white/black/Hispanic officer may perceive people of other races.

 

If a person is running away from a shouting police officer and is deaf, ought they to be shot dead?

 

It is apparent. I am an American Nationalist. It is not my job or desire to imitate other systems of government. Sorry.....I don't want in any way to be like you.

Oh yeah, so an outsider says our police force as a group, exceeded their limits of control. Due to the leadership of the "weak link" in American politics, Blue States and City precincts permited organized rioters to loot and pillage vast areas of our cities while burning police property. So you are trying to say they use "excessive police force?" Ha!

Seems you would deny Americans of any collective efforts in order to claim they are hypocritical socialists. Indeed our Constitution gives limited powers to the government, but our Bill of Rights was written to "constrain government" as our Founders recognized government is only a necessary evil that needs to be restrained. You European types seem to present that GOVERNMENT is the answer to ALL problems. That is where we differ dramatically!

 

A hypothetical can be answered with a hypothetical.....If they have shown suspician, or commited a crime, they should definitely be subdued. Lethal force is only an option if the officer's life, or the public, is threatened.

 

That would be a good start.

 

Nothing he said required a highly paid expert. I would feel gipped if I were paying his fees, and I don't like to see people get ripped off.

My opinion is that the fentanyl/meth combined with the stress of the arrest and restraint likely caused excited delirium syndrome in Mr. Floyd. Excited delirium is a medical emergency. Many cities are training their officers to call for an ambulance the moment they think a suspect may be in a state of excited delirium so the person can be sedated and transported to the hospital. EDS cases have skyrocketed along with Chinese imports of fentanyl and our national opioid crisis. Officer Lane expressed concern about excited delirium and the ambulance had not yet been called. That reflects improper police training and/or police negligence and leaves the officers culpable (along with the police chief and mayor).

If you think that the only cause of death was the neck restraint, then you are contradicting two reports from the ME.

 

Collective societal effort is socialism. Whether by a community or by a government.

 

No it's not, he could have died from all sorts of restraint. And he's certainly moving and talking for much of that 8 minutes. The officers actions were legal and Floyd's underlying health problems and intoxication killed him.

 

Yes, restrained him to stop him smashing up the car and hurting himself in the process.

 

1. Don't be silly on all points
2. Do you deliberately make your posts unreadable?

 

~ Sounds like what's going on with "Mad" Maxine Waters and crazy AOC - not to mention Nancy "let them eat ice cream" Pelosi ...

 

1. Yes of course he did, what's your point?
2. How can you not feel sorry for these poor men being sold down the river as sacrificial lambs?
3. Starting WHAT? Arresting a man for committing a crime?
4. Possibly, because of the strain of their job?
5. I KNOW you don't get it, do you?

 

My observation is that each of you is wearing the blinders of bias. One set red and one set blue.

 

'Tis what partisans do. My confusion stems from wondering why this is a partisan issue, at all. So odd. We should all want the same thing, when it comes to this type of thing.

 

I rather think I substantiate mine with facts.

 

Some of them. Not all of them.

Look at it this way: A + B + C = truth

Therefore, A + B = partial truth

You are refusing to acknowledge C.

 

Cause of death:
A. Drug Intoxication
B. Heart Disease and High Blood Pressure (Pre-existing)
C. Police Restraint

Hennepin County Decision: Homicide

 

Yes I do want some kind of justice for George Floyd and his friends and family. Kneeling on ones neck to cut off the air supply until death isn't right and we all know that. One kneeled down and the other three stood there like dunces doing nothing. What can one do? not much I tell you. There is to be justice against those four and that's it.

 

When post are made here, it should state facts that are true or close to it. You may make your facts true and so do I. So there.

 

BREAKING NEWS: Ex-cop Chauvin's charge will be elevated to second-degree murder, 3 other former officers will also be charged in the Floyd case. Details to come.

 

Maybe when he talks in an interview he dumbs it down for people. Clearly some people need that.

Well, your opinion based solely on your imagination? LOL. Why do you think you are smarter than all of the medical professionals who have examined the body?

Love the straw man you throw out there. I believe the ME's who ALL agree that it was caused by the neck and back restraint.

 

What color are your blinders such that you can't read the ME findings and come up with your own diagnosis?

 

Klobuchar is not the main spokesman for the case, I guess. lol

3 more cops charged in George Floyd death, other officer's murder charge upgraded, Sen. Klobuchar says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/3...en-klobuchar-says/ar-BB14ZoP1?ocid=spartandhp