Black Reparations.

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  1. Esau

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    Govt census. We have already chosen our "race"
     
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    Very good. :applause:
     
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    Good call, they should track down his descendants and put them in the dock also.
     
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    Make a topic about it
     
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    Most of the white kids had a family connection. None of the black kids did.

    It doesn't matter which parish it was, most of them are that way, as are most counties.
     
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    I am not for black reparations this late into the game. But I am into ridding the nation of legalized racism of all types. I am talking about zoning laws, school funding, policing, road repairs, sentencing, war on drugs, etc. I am also for a national cry for black people to feel free to live anywhere they like without prejudice, namely rural white America. As for monetary reparations, make it an economic reparation not tied to race because poor whites, blacks and browns all face similar hurdles to achieving their life ambitions. Lets invest in our kids without prejudice. Lets invest in moms by having free child care....lets invest even more in all of our poor and struggling, a rising tide....
     
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    Not sure about free childcare. Not only will that be very expensive but it doesn't incentivize proper nurturing of infants WITHIN the family domain in their formative years. These first three years are the most crucial in a person's life. I see mother's now complaining how expensive it is to put their ONE YEAR OLD into childcare, like WTF!

    This is why today's youth have all of these mental issues, they were thrown into childcare where they are given very little attention or affection. They grow up anti social.
     
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    When we lived near Paris, every neighborhood had a local creche, free pre-school child care in a nice facility, very clean and it was wonderful. That is what I meant by free child care...
     
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    I dunno about the vote buying. Reparations will be extremely unpopular with just about everyone who isn't getting them.
     
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    We elected Obama because George W. Bush started a war in Iraq and then screwed up the economy.
     
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    Okay--no childcare. Dad can stay home with the kid.
     
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    At least that child will get 100% devotion.
     
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    Asking white kids alive today to pay reparations is like asking Japanese kids to pay for Pearl Harbor.
     

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    I'm sorry that it took me so long to respond but I must disagree in that the concept of reparations, per say, is apparently not insane at least to those who have benefited from it.

    Frequently, proponents of slavery related reparations bring up the $ Billions paid to Holocaust survivors (real and fake) as a reparations model. There is even a thread(1) that discusses why Holocaust survivors are more worthy of money and fame than survivors of other equal or greater tragedies even since WW 2.

    I have suggested that it is the enormous influence of the Holocaust Industry / Lobby that accounts for USHMM's prominent and placement on some of the most valued and coveted real estate in the world and its ability to extract well over $ 100 Billion from just Germany.

    Meanwhile advocates for America's Blacks and Native Americans have had to accept far less money and have had to settle for fewer and far less opulent museums and memorials in more humble and fewer locations.

    I think that the feasibility of slavery related reparations is more impossible than "insane" due to the amount of time that has elapsed in addition to determining to what degree a prospective recipient must be Black in order to receive reparations.
    I can't imagine how any way that funds could be fairly allotted to those alive today to people who were adversely affected by slavery in America over 150 years ago.

    So, I think that we apparently agree that reparations for America's role in slavery is unworkable. I just feel that its is impossible rather than "insane".

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    "ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST"
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/about-the-holocaust.552312/page-123#post-1073912010
     
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    Yes, I agree that Holocaust victims started a new trend – to sue mass murders/genocide perpetrators for financial compensation.
    In ex-communist countries compensations are paid to victims of communist crimes and stolen property is return to rightful owners – Jews or Gentiles.
    A little about this problem is described in this book:
    https://brill.com/edcollbook/title/14422

    Reparations are also requested by Armenians:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide_reparations

    Bosnia and Herzegovina victims are trying to get justice:
    https://trialinternational.org/late...rimes-victims-in-bih-a-matter-of-willingness/

    And what about Black Reparations? Slavery ended more than 100 years ago and it will be difficult to find who is descendant of a slaver and who is descendant of a slave.
    If a Black person is descendant of a Black slave owner – does he/she deserve reparations? And what if a Black person id descendant of a White slaver and a Black slave – how much reparation he/she deserve? And what if a Black person is descendant of African slave trader who sold Black people to Americas?

    IMHO the solution to this problem should be done similarly as Germany agreement with a Jewish state – agreed on a some amount of money equal to the value of property all murdered Jews who left no descendant.

    US government should allocate budget to improve lives of Black towns/neighborhoods by investing there in better education, creating more police stations (and where police stuff will not be all White) and lower taxes to people who want to start business in such neighborhoods (If I remember President Trump was talking about it).

    And one comment:
    we have a lot of fraud in medical victim compensation – and nobody calls it Medical Victim Compensation Industry,
    we have a lot of fraud in insurance compensation – and nobody calls it Insurance Compensation Industry,
    we have a lot of fraud in divorce compensation – and nobody calls it Divorce Compensation Industry.

    Is it too much to ask forum members to treat Jews the same way they treat Gentiles?
     
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    But no matter how you go about it, people who never did anything to anyone will be paying people who were NEVER slaves. With the Holocaust, people
    directly effected by the deaths actually benefited. And even then only a fraction of those living back when slavery existed actually owned slaves. If something was done then forcing actual slave owners to directly pay their own slaves, it would make sense.

    But now? It is ludicrous!!! My ancestors didn’t live in this country when slavery existed, so why should you benefit off of me? You’re not allowed to steal my money because you made horrible decisions in your life and blame long dead people for your current problems. You’re just a loser.

    Why should Oprah or the Obama’s daughters or Lebron, or Jordan or wealthy black doctors be paid money by poor white people living in West Virginia struggling because they don’t receive the resources black people in cities receive?? There is no logical justification to do it so it can’t happen. It is an idea of the foolish.

    BTW, the race mostly responsible for ending slavery were white people. FYI. Be thankful. What we now consider POC throughout history were the WORST offenders and TODAY, POC are still the WORST offenders. So maybe if slavery is an issue, go look to the regions of the world and the people who still support it. Hint: NOT white people.

    Have a nice day and be happy you’re living in a country where slavery no longer exists and YOU have the most federal and private programs and organizations providing the most opportunities for YOU to succeed. If you can’t, look in the mirror. That’s a YOU problem, not a white people problem.
     
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    One of the common errors in this thread committed by so many of us because of a lack of understanding of FIAT money is the fear that each of us will pay for what the government spends through our taxes. That is completely false, the government can create and does create money itself to fund itself. The Federal Government could fund everything without taking a single dime from any of us if it so desired. Remember that when you say a white kid today would pay for a slaves ancestors through taxation.
     
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    Which is it parrish or county and yes it does matter to your claim? So get more blacks to apply for the police force why don't they?
     
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    But they would be taking it away in the form of inflation.
     
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    Nope just asking you if you had yet since you tend to do so in EVERY THREAD.
     
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    only when the comparison is valid, but you felt the need to bring Trump up in this thread, lol
     
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    And they were the ones that industrialized it.

    Yes, Africans Did Sell Africans Into Slavery | Medium
     
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    Do you think white Jewish Europeans should take money off of German children because of the war? Because that's what's happening, WJE are taking money from German children
     
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    Thank you for turning any subject to Jews - yes - we cannot talk about Black Reparations without mentioning Jews.
    But I am shocked that you, the greatest expert of White European Jews is not aware that German persecuted also Sephardic Jew:
    https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/general/the-jews-of-algeria-morocco-and-tunisia.html

    No doubt German children enjoyed the loot stolen by their fathers/grandfathers, so for you it looks fair that money should be taken only from these German children whose fathers stole property from Sephardic Jews?

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    You cannot convince idiots, so instead of arguing - agree with them, making their ideas even more stupid.
     
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    since the black folk that were taken captive in America are the real Jews then it's fairly pertinent to mention it.
     

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