Black Reparations.

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    And Mr. Obatard the dronanator, continued it.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with virtually everything you've just written and am today's social pariahs: an old White man (aka: wicked, evil and greedy White devil oppressor).

    In addition to military service in the US Army (Airborne), I've had many different jobs and done reasonably well in all the ones I cared about. I was a psychiatric case worker at both an inner city Emergency Psychiatric and in the Juvenile Justice system.

    Àfterward, I attempted to teach "Special Ed." in an inner city High School where expectations were minimal but experience in the Juvenile Justice system helped to get good evaluations for what I could accomplish.
    Several vocations later, I took up blacksmithing and was trusted with some fairly expensive and detailed commissions.

    It was my time on the Emergency Psychiatric unit and working with troubled kids and their parents that causes me to feel that instead of unworkable slavery reparations, a more accessible, comprehensive and affordable Health Care and Mental Health Care system is most likely to benefit those adversely affected by slavery and other social ills.

    As a perceptive forum member has already noted: " a rising tide..."

    Thanks,
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    As I said every thread near about.
     
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    Bush didn't run against Obama. Bush and the Reps handed the Dems full employment, rising incomes, a rising LFPR, record revenue increases and a paltry $161B deficit heading to surplus. What exactly did they screw up?
     
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    glad you agree with me then
     
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    in 2008, you kidding, the economy was crashing, the banks needed bailed out....
     
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    He put the economy back together, but not as good as he could have. Ditto Trump. Ditto Joe.
     
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    Blacks should embrace Whiteness.4
     
  9. Pred

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    Of course not. Whatever justice Germany paid back to Jews is warranted. The govt tried to wipe Jews off the planet. Or at least those they could get their literal hands on. And EU as a whole haven’t been all that kind to Jews anyway. Antisemitism is still an issue. Slavery sure as **** hasn’t been an issue for generations.

    And I frankly don’t give a **** what Germany does for their own people. Doesn’t impact me. My direct descendants never received a dime since they were out of there by the time the war ended. Germany didn’t track down Jews in the US and hand them cash:)

    I do care what whackos in this country are trying to do though, because that impacts me and my children. POC have tremendous federal and state mandated opportunity that no white people are given. Private companies also provide plenty. No special programs specifically help ONLY white people or even males. NONE. NOR should there be. NO RACE or gender deserves anything special because it’s discrimination. It’s racist. It’s bigotry. It’s wrong. It’s immoral.

    The ONLY help I support somewhat is for those disadvantaged by income. I can accept some help given to those with few resources, but given equally to all regardless of race or gender. But that’s not how it works. POC are up first. Then women and LGBT+. Males are basically screwed. And white males are literally crossed off the list completely. Freaking heartbreaking for any average middle class white kid. You’re given absolutely zippo. Not poor enough for help and not rich enough to take advantage. They’re on their own. The system is literally designed to screw them over.
     
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    Meaning what?
     
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    No they aren't.
     
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    Do you believe the WJE should payback the £79b they've received in reparations to German children?
     
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    If the German govt wants to pay money to actual survivors, that’s their business. The German govt did the actual killing. But not my country. Not my concern.

    If a former slave owner wants to pay one of his slaves back, that’s also his business. Think they’re all dead though :)
     
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    No he didn't, Americans did that :) After a crash, economies our size recover, presidents and politicians alike don't ;)
     
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    Should the WJE payback the £79b they've received in reparations to German children if the reparations were wrong as you've previously stated?
     
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    No, inflation is not a direct outcome of monetary policy, its far more complicated than simply saying money supply is the source of inflation. Lack of goods and services is the flip side of the argument is it not?
     
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    I am unsure why so many apologists point to Africans selling fellow Africans into slavery as some kind of excuse for our own legal and institutionalized form of slavery. What does that have to do with anything that happened here in the US and in the colonies?
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    It is the money supply being inflated by the government more than the goods and services grow. Were the government just to print the money it needed to pay it's bills that would inflate the money supply and cause HUGE inflation. Check out Argentina and Venezuela.
     
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    The Dems took back the Congress January of 2007.

    Try again.

    Bush and the Reps handed the Dems full employment, rising incomes, a rising LFPR, record revenue increases and a paltry $161B deficit heading to surplus. What exactly did they screw up?

    Two years later with the Dems taking the WH too the deficit hit $1,400B and stayed over $1,000B for the next three years (the Rep austerity and sequester bills being what finally cut it), unemployment went to 10% and stayed over 8% for the next FORTY-THREE months inspite of Obama's claim his HUGE stimulus bill would hold it to just 8% and then rapidly fall.

    So where did the Dems actually succeed at anything.
     
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    It's called context and through the prism of the times. It wasn't the United States of America that brought slavery to the Americas and established a slave based economy on a huge scale. It existed the least amount of time under the United States flag than under first the native tribes who were already here before the Europeans arrive and then under the laws of those European countries. It was the United States which was left to end it which was eventually accomplished at great cost to all. And yes that slavery only existed because of the Africans themselves who captured each other and sold each other into slavery amongst themselves and then to the Arab and European traders at the time. And in fact still exists in some parts of Africa.

    So there are no "apologies" just the historical facts. We as a civilization advanced beyond human chattle slavery. No one today owes anyone else for that past slavery neither Africans, Europeans or Americans.
     
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    The government has been printing money since Nixon and inflation has gone up and down for all sorts of reasons unrelated to the money supply. Today, we are experiencing global inflation, how does that result from our government's deficit spending?
     
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    It has been hugely influence by the money supply it's a monetary and fiscal problem. We are experiencing US inflation our dollar is not tied to those other currenecies nor did Biden getting his $1.9B inflate their currenecies. Add in his energy policies here and we have 9% inflation still hovering at 7%. There are lots of places on the global who have NOT had inflation as we have had here because they better manager their monetary and fiscal policy.

    We need to increase production not hand out more money. That is the difference between the successful Rep policies and the failed Dem policies.
     
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    German problem. Not my problem.
     
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    Are you denying they were AT THE TIME?
     

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